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Low-traffic zones unlawful, High Court rules

Latest news from Croydon:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g77gq24wro'Six Low Traffic Neighbourhoods (LTNs) in south London have been ruled as unlawful by the High Court as they were mainly in place to raise money'.Who'd have thought it!

Peter Evans ● 4d12 Comments

In fact there are more LTNs coming our way in LBH by the looks of it. A number of CCTV cameras have been installed around Brook Road South with a note that they are to monitor traffic in the area. It is another step of the anti-car establishment to "justify the need" for an LTN in the area in the near future.

Alex Shpinkov ● 1d

In fact there are more LTNs are coming our way in LBH by the looks of it. A number of CCTV cameras have been installed around Brook Road South with a note that they are to monitor traffic in the area. It is another step of the anti-car establishment to "justify the need" for an LTN in the area in the near future.

Alex Shpinkov ● 1d

Personally I find this concerning with regard to LBH's recent budget approval based on revenue from these schemes.That doesn't bode well.

David Lesniak ● 1d

It will deter dimwitted Councils from even dreaming of implementing any more LTNs.

Steve Taylor ● 2d

It might be, but Croydon Council was declared bankrupt (AFAIK) and so I wouldn't hold my breath.It might happen ( and, if the LTNs were illegally implemented absolutely it's the correct thing to happen) but like Donald Trunp's tariffs that were declared illegal (unconstitutional?) whether the money gets paid back isn't a dead cert.

Andrew Jones ● 2d

Great news for people fined for using these LTNs“ London council that used LTNs to unlawfully make money 'must refund millions in fines to drivers'”

Steve Taylor ● 3d

There is a time limit of 3 months after a decision to submit a claim for judicial review of the decision so given the low traffic neighbourhood schemes in Hounslow, Fishers Lane in Ealing etc. have been in place for about 5 years, objectors would be a bit late.Clearly a political party could run with a manifesto to remove them.... Lutfhur Rahmans Aspire party in Tower Hamlets tried that, then they lost a judicial review so couldn't remove LTNs as that would breach council responsibilities for transport strategy and schemes which had been paid for by TfL. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce3kkven14no

Michael Robinson ● 3d

Laila Cunningham has committed to making London a better place to live for EVERYONE, not just a few privileged manipulators. We’ll see these harmful LTNs removed and we’ll see unused cycle lanes removed to enable faster motorised traffic and, obviously, we’ll see crime reduced, especially crime against women and girls and the crimes perpetuated by Grooming Gangs. All issues that Kahn has failed / refused to tackle.

Steve Taylor ● 3d

Obviously he couldn’t admit to any benefits in reducing traffic for the wider community because there aren’t any. Only the very few people living in LTNs would see a reduction of traffic in their street. I look forward to Laila Cunningham tackling this issue when she becomes mayor.

Steve Taylor ● 3d

I realise that ‘making the world a better place’ as a justification for questionable road schemes seems to trump ‘we need the money’, whatever the real reason!Maybe worth a quick scour of Ealing/Hounslow council minutes/statements to check?

Peter Evans ● 3d

Of course, you haven't explained the reasoning behind the court's ruling.The schemes were put in place by a Labour administration in Croydon which was subsequently replaced by a Conservative administration at a following election.  The Conservative leader of Croydon was repeatedly asked why he wasn't removing the schemes when he had opposed them, so he came up with the reason that they needed them for the money.  He couldn't admit that there may be benefits for reducing traffic.Other than demonstrating the Conservative leader of Croydon isn't very clever to get the council into what the judge described as a "procedural dog's breakfast", I don't see any implications for other councils unless they have an equally stupid leader (which some undoubtedly will have).All a council needs to do is have a policy for reducing traffic in residential areas then assuming they follow proper process for introducing the LTN, there isn't anything a court can do because it isn't up to the court to determine council policy for this.

Michael Robinson ● 3d

Finally some common sense and legal justice.

Steve Taylor ● 3d