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J.D. Vance

If only we had a J D Vance type to ride into Chiswick and set up in town as sheriff ! -We could audit/clean up Hounslow councilwe could end all fracas outside SainsburysWe could get all local miscreants and deviants dealt with, e.g. the Pavey/Greenhough ganghow blissful W4 could be...

Anna Kirkpatrick ● 33d72 Comments

Neil Oliver on the money as usual:https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19XqAF5yvj/

Michael Brown ● 25d

Never here Keir has been rushed from the White House to London, then onto Brussels joining 19 other countries following the Don's orders to get their act together, and arrange a coalition to garner enough money to ultimately cause the Russian psychopath to lay down his guns- forever.To give Free Gear Keir some credit he has been energised this past week and given off the right sound bites. He will also be chuffed at Rupert Lowe upsetting the applecart over at Reform.

Denis I. Fox ● 26d

Michael it did need a greater power to try for peace.

Janice Evans ● 26d

The chief warmonger is Putin you idiot!He's the one who ordered the invasion of Ukraine three years ago. The great shame is that the West only gave Ukraine enough to stall Russia, bit by bit, rather than giving them enough to turn the course of the war in year 1.If the West hadn't supplied Ukraine with weapons, we'd now have Russian forces at the borders of the EU, and, emboldened by the lack of European resolve, they'd be planning the next country to invade.

Andrew Jones ● 26d

Sir Beer Korma now leading 20 nations in the 'Coalition of the Willing' to keep 'peace' if peace breaks out. None of these nations have done a thing to bring peace since the war started, and Starmer has only sent weapons to Ukraine; but now that Donald has single handedly made peace a real possibility, they all want some of the 'peace' action; or rather have a way of keeping their oar in Ukraine if Donald is successful. Donald has exposed the 'Coalition of the Willing' as nothing but a bunch of warmongers..

Michael Brown ● 26d

Denis, yes he will do it his way and we all want peace if possible.

Janice Evans ● 26d

He knows Ukraine want security and he must be aware they will need it, let's hope he can come up with some help in that direction.

Janice Evans ● 26d

We know that Donald has had a long chat on the phone with Vladimir and a chat in person with the Zelenskyy about the war. In a public address made by Donald, today, he said that he knows Vladimir wants peace but he doesn't know what Ukraine wants..

Michael Brown ● 26d

Absolutely Janice.Last time out he helped out, as promised, the white American Midwest who had been ignored by Obama.I remember he kept most, if not all of his other pledges.This time around he is endeavoring to stop the killings in Gaza and Ukraine- as promised.Let us hope he succeeds, albeit he will do it his way.

Denis I. Fox ● 26d

I was referring to his last presidency and the help he gave to working people.

Janice Evans ● 26d

I think Janice may have overlooked the fact that the only people Trump is going to help 'prosper' are his millionaire/billionaire mates, that's why he had the big jolly at Mar a Lago last week. Doubt any of this money he reckons to get in tariffs will find its way to proper healthcare or other services for the poor sods who do the ordinary day to day jobs.

Vanessa Smith ● 27d

Trump's business head ? He's been declared bankrupt at least four times.

David Burke ● 27d

Would Vance be a better option ?  Although I agree with some of what Trump does regarding business and helping people to prosper.

Janice Evans ● 27d

Richard, Trump always has his business head on which is not a bad thingand do wish we had someone equally business minded, but he needs a V.Pthat would balance that with worldly knowledge and decorum, unfortunatelythe two don't work well together at the moment, unless Vance has an agenda for himself.

Janice Evans ● 27d

One good thing is Trump has made us take defence seriously and about time, Boris was also Brexit,  I have always thought leaders are voted in because they will do some good during their term and when that is done they will be voted out.

Janice Evans ● 27d

You have to remember that the choice in 2019 was Johnson or Corbyn - very much between the devil and the deep blue sea. Braindead Vance seems to think that Britain is a Muslim country with atomic weapons - whether he thought that Sunak was a Muslim or he looked at some of Starmer's cabinet is unclear, but facts do not seem to be his strongpoint.

Richard Greenhough ● 27d

I would imagine there are many soldiers,sailors and air crews in the American military who fought toe to toe with UK,French and other European service personnel over several campaigns who are embarrassed and disgusted with Vance's comments.What makes it even more unbelievable is the fact that he was a serviceman himself.

Keith Iddon ● 27d

I suspect like many of us around the world the Democrats have been left stunned at how so many people could be so stupid. The election of Trump is a complete mystery to many of us, and they did themselves no favours with the mess over Biden's not understanding he needed to call it a day for the sake of his party and country much earlier to give his party a fighting chance. To me it's a bit like the idiots here who voted for Johnson when so many of us could see where that was going. Both he and Trump are totally unsuited for high office it's never about the greater good, it's only ever about them.

Vanessa Smith ● 27d

One of several worrying factors about Vance is that, unlike Biden's VP, Kamala Harris, Vance is a serious contender to be Trump's successor. He is in the right age-range (early 40s) and is motivated by the same combination of poisonous aggression and ignorance that appeals to Trump's supporters. I hope the Democrats are working hard to put forward a credible alternative when the time comes.

Colin Jordan ● 27d

As ever, Anna's posts provide a useful insight into what message the Russian information machine wants to push at the moment. It is not surprising that JD Vance is hugely popular with them given that he pushes their talking points harder even than Trump and is proactively seeking to broaden the rift between the US and other non-autocracies across the world. All but the very hard of thinking must now recognise that with his 'random countries' comment he is an unapologetic enemy of the UK and with his support for the AfD in Germany he is the unapologetic enemy of liberal democracy in general. The question we need to answers is what exactly are JD Vance's aims. Is he simply slavishly echoing Trump's every utterance to hang on in their to have his share in the mammoth kleptocracy that he is creating or is he a Trojan horse and a true believer in some of the batshit crazy ideas put forward in Project 2025 who thinks he can manage Trump to get them implemented. What we don't know at this stage is whether or not the provocation of the row with Zelenskyy and the 'random countries' comments are something that Trump encouraged him to do or whether Vance is deliberately turning up the heat to manipulate the direction of events. If it is the former, we are all in very profound trouble, if it is the latter, he probably won't get away with it for long and we'll see red-hatted loons demanding his lynching when Trump works out what he is up to.

Francis Rowe ● 27d

Some time ago, I spent a year working in America. On one occasion, a young man said I spoke good English. I thanked him but asked him why he complimented my English, at which he looked a bit puzzled and said, 'Well, what language do you speak in England?' I suspect that this is the level of knowledge of the UK and the rest of the world possessed by most of the followers of the likes of Trump and Vance.

Colin Jordan ● 28d

It was interesting to find out that VSO was started before the Peace Corps. An interestingvway to find out more about the rest of the world that we all share!

Philippa Bond ● 28d

As I understand it he comes from an interesting hillbilly Christian Evangelical background but perhaps like the many Americans from an absolutely huge country compared to us who haven't travelled much if at all has a rather strange and insular view of life.

Philippa Bond ● 28d

That quote from Wikipedia is misleading.It relates to this 2015 article (as referenced in Wikipedia)https://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/04/welcome-to-the-most-corrupt-nation-in-europe-ukraine.The trend since then has been of a perception of reducing corruption (see https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2023/index/ukr )Plenty of countries have gone the other way e.g. Turkey https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2023/index/tur

Andrew Jones ● 28d

Blimey what a read!"The most corrupt country in Europe"!!Many of us need to know more perhaps.

Jim Lawes ● 28d

New York is not a City, it's a World.Truman Capote- Breakfast at Tiffany's

Denis I. Fox ● 29d

Listening to PMQs today, Prime Minster reading out the names of British troops who died serving the country in Iraq and Afghanistan , a perfect response to Trumps minion while maintaining the diplomatic angle, impressive.

David Burke ● 29d

"..FDR didn't exactly fall over himself to help this country when Churchill asked for ships"I expect that was because Churchill didn't wear a suit and tie.

Richard Greenhough ● 29d

Some of our own memorials were not clear on who they were for,of course everyone knew at first, but new generations were unawareand think that has been updated now.

Janice Evans ● 29d

'I guess the reason why Winston Churchill's bust is still prominent in the Oval Office is because of his American mother. 'Do you think that Trump even knows that Richard? Wonder if he also knows that FDR didn't exactly fall over himself to help this country when Churchill asked for ships?

Vanessa Smith ● 29d

Years ago I was in Quebec City looking at a memorial to the 1812 attempt by the US rebels to add Canada to their newish republic. An American schoolboy was astonished to learn that they had lost and Canada had avoided being absorbed by its southern neighbour. The lack of historical knowledge regarding other countries by many Americans is shocking. I guess the reason why Winston Churchill's bust is still prominent in the Oval Office is because of his American mother.

Richard Greenhough ● 29d

If you have ever been to the U.S. then you will know that when it comes to history -especially the two World Wars they seem to think they were the only ones fighting! While in Cape Cod one year we did a tour and there was a beautiful memorial to the Korean War dead, did the U.K. rate a mention from the guide? Did we buggery. When leaving the tour my husband reminded the guide that we lost forces too, and that his uncle had actually fought in Korea - it didn't seem to land very well. America is a huge country with the majority of people not even having a passport, those who have travelled have a different world view, but as a nation they are very inward looking.

Vanessa Smith ● 29d

Yes they should be more thankful. 😊

Janice Evans ● 29d

The only reason that the orange babyman has Vance there is to make him look smart. He failed on that one as well.

N V Brooks ● 29d

Trump and Vance need to be reminded that 457 British troops lost their lives with 2000 injured in their war,helping them try to nail blancmange to a wall,which is how it played out in reality.

Keith Iddon ● 29d

The guy is a complete idiot, he clearly demonstrates that he has no understanding of any country and zero diplomatic skills. He should look at his own backyard, huge poverty, no healthcare unless you are rich or employed, massive drugs problem, poor education standards and the list goes on. Gosh what a ride the world is in for with this lot.

Jayne Thorburn ● 29d

'An Islamist country with nukes'During last year's presidential election campaign, Vance suggested Labour's victory here made Britain the "first truly Islamist country" with nuclear weapons.Speaking at a conservative conference in Washington, he took the opportunity to "beat up on the UK" while talking about nukes, which he said were "one of the big dangers in the world".Recalling a conversation about who might be "the first truly Islamist country that will get a nuclear weapon", he said rather than it being somewhere like Iran, he settled on the UK "since Labour just took over".

Andrew Jones ● 29d

Has anyone told JD its incredibly rude to keep pointing during a disagreement What a twat!!

Jerry Byrne ● 29d

Vance wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on the arse.

Vanessa Smith ● 29d

Vance is a brainless idiot. The only reason I can think of for Dumbass Donald picking him as VP is to put off potential assassins. "I picture Richard G. as very thin with a sharp pointed nose"I wish !

Richard Greenhough ● 30d

- jealous of a strong person who doesnt bow to the court of public opinion ! Vance is a fearless truth seeker. Good on him. You know when I see names on the forum but havent met these characters in person I sort of sub consciously imagine what they look like...I picture Richard G. as very thin with a sharp pointed nose ?I picture Bobby Fish with sandy hair and a walking impediment ?I picture Andrew J. as extremely tall with fair hair and fair eyelashes that you cant make out - probably because I use to  know another Andrew like that. lol.

Anna Kirkpatrick ● 30d

The term "green-eyed monster" refers to jealousy, alluding to Shakespeare's previous use of the term "green-eyed jealousy" in his play The Merchant of Venice.So who am I supposed to be jealous of, Anna ?

Richard Greenhough ● 30d

Ricky could never be described as refreshing ! A bad case of the green eyed monster going on there I think..

Anna Kirkpatrick ● 30d

Sounds like Medvedev was confused - the insolent pigs were Dumbass Donald and his brain-dead VP Vance. Probably Medvedev had been on the vodka.

Richard Greenhough ● 30d

Living under Hounslow council is much worse Vanessa, c'mon lurvie.

Anna Kirkpatrick ● 31d

Have you thought of emigrating to Russia? It's a wonder that you can survive in western democracy, so if you want to live in subservience then Moscow is calling.....

Vanessa Smith ● 31d

'The insolent pig got a proper slap down in the Oval Office' - He s very straight talking is Medevev - how refreshing !X.com    @MedvedevRussiaE  posted February 28th

Anna Kirkpatrick ● 31d

My apologies - Poroshenko was installed as puppet President during the 2014 US led coup, followed by the comedian in 2019..

Michael Brown ● 31d

So the rely challenge is that Vance is ignoring about history, agreements etc, but then the US are ignorant re history and the rest of the world. The majority have little or no education about anything outside of the US. Equally I understand Trump has to bring Putin to the table and sometimes one has to dance with the devil. We did with the IRA to achieve peace.

Jayne Thorburn ● 31d

Thanks Richard - it's funny how widely verifiable facts have that awkward habit of totally torpedoing the boll**ks that the conspiracy loons like Michael Brown spout out.

Andrew Jones ● 31d

"It really got going in 2014 when a US led coup of Ukraine resulted in the elected president at the time being removed and replaced with a comedian - yes, a comedian by the name of Zelenskyy"Volodymyr Zelensky was elected President in 2019. Petro Poroshenko was President from 2014 to 2019, following the departure of Viktor Yanukovych. Shortly after Yanukovych's departure it really got going when Russia invaded and annexed Crimea. Quite simply, "Ras" Putin never accepted that the Ukrainian people had the right to choose their own future, tried to make it a client state like Belarus by interfering in elections, and when the Ukrainian people made it clear in their voting that that was not what they wanted, he invaded. The "post-nuclear security agreement" regarding Ukraine is formally known as the Budapest Memorandum, where Ukraine agreed to give up its inherited nuclear weapons from the Soviet Union in exchange for security assurances from the United States, United Kingdom, and Russia, pledging to respect Ukraine's territorial integrity and refrain from the use of force against it; this agreement was signed on December 5, 1994, in Budapest, Hungary, when Boris Yeltsin was Russian President. Neither "Ras" Putin nor Dumbass Donald show any signs of respecting this agreement.

Richard Greenhough ● 31d

Yes, and look how he landed up.

Vanessa Smith ● 31d

Lord Haw Haw

David Burke ● 31d

It really got going in 2014 when a US led coup of Ukraine resulted in the elected president at the time being removed and replaced with a comedian - yes, a comedian by the name of Zelenskyy; but a puppet comedian is all the Cabal need to pull the strings of. Talks of Ukraine joining the EU and NATO, plus NATO exercises in Ukraine soon started - basically, anything that might wind Putin up was put in place, and he invaded Ukraine. Zelenskyy is in a worse position 3 years on as result of taking the position of Cabal puppet, but is still being egged on by the Cabal who have nothing to lose - they don't care how long the war goes on for; but it does affect Zelenskyy and Ukraine - it's a war they could never win, and will only get worse for them. Trump is pointing out this harsh fact - agree a peace deal because there is no other viable option for peace.Meanwhile, Sir Beer Korma and his cronies are looking to implement  'peace' measures similar to what started all the trouble in the first place. Only Trump is talking any sense..

Michael Brown ● 31d

'There are suspicions now that the public row was - in the words of one diplomatic observer - a planned political mugging: either to force Zelensky to do America's bidding, or to precipitate a crisis that would allow them to blame him for whatever happens next', per Jeremy Bowen. It seems there are a lot of stupid people out there, who lack your superior intuition.

Robert Fish ● 31d

"the Pavey/Greenhough gang" Yeah, it must be us outside Sainsbury she is seeing. On that note, I better get my La Rocka Johnson's leather jacket out of the wardrobe and see if the robot shoes still fit. On that note, have you seen Elvis in Sainsbury's lately Anna?

Julian Pavey ● 32d

Hey, Julian, did you know we had a gang ? It must be true, because Anna says so, and she's never wrong, is she ?

Richard Greenhough ● 32d

Vance deserves a clip round the ear, told only to speak when he's spoken to (not spoken at) by one of his betters and go and stand in the corner until the grown-ups have finished. From that "press conference" it is evident that the only reason Vance got to be vice-president was so that Trump wouldn't look quite so stupid as he normally does. Trump clearly forgot that.

John Hickman ● 32d

If only we had a J D Vance type to ride into Chiswick and set up in town as sheriff ! I would love the **** to ride into Chiswick.... Then I would and all the good people of Chiswick can take turns in punching his lights out.

Brian Green ● 32d

It may have gone better without Vance there.

Janice Evans ● 32d

I will say that if Zelensky wants anything from Trump,he must first treat him like a toddler.Tickle him under the chin,tell him waht a wonderful boy he is and then he might be able to get him to share his sweets.Zelensky is used to dealing with European leaders who are much more compliant and scared witless that Putin may have their country targetted next.Big baby Donald has no such worries.

Keith Iddon ● 33d

The experienced political journalists of all backgrounds are appalled at how things panned out at the White House yesterday. Unprecedented and unnecessary. It’s not normal protocol for the Vice President to get involved in that way, particularly not launching a vitriolic personal attack on someone who is nominally senior to him.The consensus is that Trump simply wants to be one of a few strong men running the planet between them. If you think that’s a path to international stability and freedom then you are very much mistaken.

Simon Hayes ● 33d

“ those unspeakable sh*ts deliberately set out to gang up on one of the most courageous Leaders in the world ”If you believe that, you are as stupid as they are. The strategy of the meeting wasn’t planned at all.  JD just got irritated with Zelensky and started the ball rolling. Not to be outdone by his VP, Trump then took over so that he could assume control of the Press ‘Conference’ again.  The conversation just morphed into argument. Nothing clever or strategic or planned. It’s just unfortunate that Zelensky lowered his standards by getting angry and responding to the nonsense which just made Trump more determined to put him in his place. Zelensky would have made more impact by just ignoring or shrugging off the rants. Now he looks more of a fool by apologising to them and telling them and the world how much he needs the USA.

Steve Taylor ● 33d

Well said Roger.

John Kennedy ● 33d

Neither Vance or Trump are fit to clean Mr Velensky's shithouse. On the day the Russians invaded Ukraine three years ago, President Biden offered to fly Zelensky and his family out of Ukraine. Zelensky told him that he didn't want a plane, he wanted guns.And what do we have Starmer doing, full of his hypocritical horseshit? Sucking Trump''s dick and inviting him to stay with our King.

Roger Talbot ● 33d

In your dreams, those unspeakable sh*ts deliberately set out to gang up on one of the most courageous Leaders in the world today, and just showed themselves up for what they are, you are in a minority if you seriously believe what you posted.

Vanessa Smith ● 33d

Zelensky was annihilated.

Steve Taylor ● 33d

Zelensky stood his ground, good for him.

Janice Evans ● 33d

I would say the vast majority of sane British people are appalled and insulted along with President Zelensky at the disgusting display of bullying at the White House yesterday. If all these morons are so enamoured of Trump and his henchmen they can always bog-off to Russia, how thick are they, did they not have history lessons at school? What next Trump will nominate Andrew Tate and his brother responsible for the safety of women and children?

Vanessa Smith ● 33d

Oh yes, what every contry needs is a brain dead idiot who insults visiting heads of state while pandering to his felon of a master, Get a life or at least join the real world. Funny, isn;t it that none of my friends across the pond voted for, or will admit to having voated for the orange 'man baby'.

N V Brooks ● 33d

I think we could add Keith to the list of the miscreants as he s shown himself to be a libel -ist previously.Call the sheriff !

Anna Kirkpatrick ● 33d

Been nhaving wet dreams about him ,Anna? Hopefully if he does visit W4 he will carry you off into the sunset,never to be seen again.

Keith Iddon ● 33d