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Police radios linked to cancer

Officer Neil Dring  has died at 38 from throat cancer leaving 2 young children; his brother who has a PhD in chemistry attributes the death to a controversial airway system radio that uses tetra mobile technology. A police report found that 177 officers in one constabulary alone  had reported health problems from tetra radiation.Police have good pension pots dont they.....   hmmmm ..

Anna Kirkpatrick ● 2d21 Comments

Sounds far better than trying to erase the remains of our old church website(s) which the previous incumbent had allowed to get really bloated and used bits redirected from the three almost identical domains he had opened. He had mislaid any and all passwords and full credit to Ionos who, having made us leap through hoops to prove our bona fides managed to unravel the mess. Now need a stiff drink before Midnight Mass.

N V Brooks ● 19h

Interesting.  But I checked out the US FCC site and couldn’t find any claim about a ‘proven risk’.  Rather I found this statement - ‘The FCC has proposed modifying Part 90 of its rules to permit the certification and use of Terrestrial Trunked Radio (TETRA) equipment.  TETRA is a spectrally efficient digital technology with the potential to provide valuable benefits to land mobile radio users.’ Admittedly this is from a few years back but I couldn’t find any later statements modifying this position and I did try hard! (Not how I normally spend Christmas Eve though am enjoying a delightful NZ Sauvignon Blanc with my nearest and dearest so that’s okay)

Alastair Banton ● 19h

AndA very Merry Christmas to you and yours. The overarching principlea of a precautionary approach has always been the maxim of the research community in the UK. Until such time as there is proven risk then research must continue, unfortunately or fortunately, depending which way you look at it there has been very little research into the 300 MHz, save that the US FCC claims a proven risk

N V Brooks ● 21h

What does cause cancer are the mRNA Covid vaccines. Professor of Oncology, Angus Dalgleish, has presented the irrefutable evidence of this to the government, but he says the government isn't interested..

Michael Brown ● 22h

Thanks NV.  Those papers are interesting, the first being a protocol for future research and the second being, as you say, about concern at the lack of equipment to measure bands above 300MHz.  Concern about possible risk and ongoing research is the way forward.  Conspiracy fantasies and unevidenced scaremongering is not.  Happy Christmas!

Alastair Banton ● 22h

Absolutely no proven risk and not a single peer-reviewed paper proving one. It is a REALLY short range, low, power transmission medium. To maintain the high speeds that people expect it is deployed everwhere at low power. Worry not about 5G.

N V Brooks ● 22h

Nigel, is 5g safe?

Michael Brown ● 22h

Knock yourself out: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8484862/  There are also risk assessment papers from The Federal Communications Commission. The HPA in the UK has also published tabulated data at https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a7d96b5ed915d497af70554/HpaRpd026.pdf which cites concerns over the lack of equipment deployed to measure 300MHz + installations.  Loads of peer-reviewed papers expressing concern, NOT related to mobile phones but to eequipment deployed in bands above 300MHz.Just a reminder: Terrestrial Trunked Radio (TETRA) operates primarily in the 380–430 MHz bands,

N V Brooks ● 23h

What a weird comment.  What have you got against Imperial College?  But the burden of proof still remains with you.  Not rumour, not anecdote just standard verifiable evidence is all that’s needed.

Alastair Banton ● 23h

Imperial College ?????  HahahahahahahWho needs laughing gas when we have Alistair Banton around us..

Anna Kirkpatrick ● 23h

Harley dubious, anyone who has worked in the industry will know that exposure to frequencies above 300 MHz for prolonged periods causes cellular changes. Mainstream cancer charities will not be at all concerned as no mobile telephony equipment operates in this frequency range. However a lot of military and emergency services equipment does. If you want to remain oblivious to this, then that is your choice.

N V Brooks ● 1d

NV I have no intention of doing any more digging because that way lies a rabbit hole.  I have found references to lots of reputable research including some by Imperial College that has found no evidence of harms from TETRA.  As for the Karolinska Institute it has a dreadful reputation - no deep digging required to discover that.  And cancer charities don’t seem to have any concerns.  There are loads of real and proven cancer risks.  Why flag up a very dubious one?

Alastair Banton ● 1d

Julian, we were absolutely obsessed with safety when deploying networks. Anything that flagged up the slightest increased risk was taken very seriously indeed.  This is why I get thoroughly hacked off with those who complain that mobile phone units and transmitters are dangerous. There is more ionising radiation from a poorly shielded vacuum cleaner than from our mobile phone transmitter; trunked or drilled PMR on the other hand was a whole different ball game and we wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.

N V Brooks ● 1d

Loads researched including cancerresearch and found no credible link between trunk and cancer.I think many in the US are nowon it.I'd rather believe those fighting  cancer than the rest. Surely they would be first to shout out it isnot safe

Julian Pavey ● 1d

You need to do a lot more digging and it's hardly surprising that the trade association for the manufacturer and distribution of such devices can find no link.  A fact is that all but one of the mobile networks in the UK walked away from TETRA/ AIrwave when the risks became evident to. Please also see the work of the Karolinska institute in Sweden which is a totally independent monitoring body.  I am no tin foil hatted nut job and actually worked on the compilation of mobile telephony safety standards the 1980s, there are however serious doubts about the safety of continued exposure to trunked mobile radio.

N V Brooks ● 1d

I googled ‘TETRA personnel absences’ as suggested and found no reports of research proving a cancer link and only a qualified link with work absences.  The following provides a summary.https://tcca.info/tetra/for-tetra-specialist/tetra-is-a-safe-technology/

Alastair Banton ● 1d

Sorry Mike you also need to Google the term TETRA and reference it qith exponential increases in personnel absences

N V Brooks ● 1d

Google it. I spent almost forty years deploying PMR and mobile networks in the UK and Europe. No one would touch trunked PMR which had been developed from a short range battlefield 'stun weapon'.  If you Google Airwave controversy there are digests from over thirty years of research. It was meant to be the panacea to black holes in emergency services communication networks. It was anything but

N V Brooks ● 1d

Source?

Mike Firth ● 1d

Actually not garbage at all as the original airwave system was withdrawn because ititsed a trunk  radio technology which had previously links to blastomas and cancer. It is no longer used

N V Brooks ● 2d

You do post some completeand utter garbage on here

Julian Pavey ● 2d