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2x3 Police on cs9

I see 2 groups of police on CS9. Quick chat,warning or convescating electricscooters and illegalelectric bikes by catholicchurch.

Julian Pavey ● 29d33 Comments

Do you ever get tired of making ridiculous claims that are easily disprovable? There is no doubt that there is a secondary trade in accounts for these delivery companies and sometimes an individual without the right to work here will use one. However, to say these delivery drivers are 'mainly' illegal immigrants is just nonsense. I would dearly like to see the back of these pernicious businesses but not to the extent of  making up lies about them.

Francis Rowe ● 22d

They are mainly illegal immigrants with fake identities. There is no control over them. They are embraced by the black economy. Stop illegal immigration and the employers will have to step up their game. Continue with illegal immigration and you will continue with this road chaos and dangerous riding on unlicensed bikes.

Steve Taylor ● 23d

Apparently they don't use the lights because they believe they can go faster without them. It makes virtually no difference to battery life. From a moral point of view, obviously these companies should educate their delivery riders and insist on the use of lights. I would guess that from a legal point of view doing so would compromise their argument that these young men are not their employees. This is yet another good reason not to order anything through these companies.

Francis Rowe ● 23d

Interesting point about the delivery riders not having lights. It often struck me as odd but presumably charging represents downtime when they are not earning therefore the villains here are the online delivery companies who aren't concerned for their work force and tolerate unsafe working practices because they claim they are not employees as a tax dodge.The later in the day, the higher percentage of cyclists they make up on the High Road and by 7pm it is well over half.They do routinely ignore red lights but once again that has to be put down to the companies who could easily insist that this doesn't happen. Other than that adherence to red lights is pretty patchy but when people are doing this at their own risk I find it hard to get worked up about it. However I did see a man with a toddler on a bucket seat sail through a red light at Dukes Avenue the other day and that is completely unacceptable.

Mark Evans ● 25d

oh come on you lot ... it's really simple(1) Cycling good(2) Law-breaking bad - fair enough for the Old Bill to nick red-light jumpers of all wheeled trafficCan we agree please?

Davey Harris ● 27d

Hi Chris,I use the C9 as part of my daily commute and from my perspective 'rush hour' is very busy. I can't speak for other times, except when I cycle through now and again, and then it's usually the same amount of bikes as cars.There are quite a lot of Deliveroo cyclists and what I don't understand is that they often don't have lights. Are they trying to save battery power?? In terms of percentage, I'd say they are a minority and it's mostly commuters and parents with their kids.There is one elegant cyclist in Ealing I happen to see a lot. He is always very dapper and well turned-out. Personally, I have cycled to evening events. My bike is more of a 'sitting upright' one, rather than a lycramobile, so wearing elegant going-out garb is not a problem.For reference, I join the C9 at Olympia. Kensington High Street is a free-for-all and a lack of cycle lane has not deterred most cycling commuters, but it would make that whole street so much safer. It's so nonsensical to have a sudden gap in what is otherwise a pretty seamless west/east cycleway.CheersDominik

Dominik Klimowski ● 27d

"...cyclists....have to....have their wits about them at all times."That has always been the case - motorists deciding to turn left without indicating, pedestrians wandering into the road without looking, other cyclists deciding to run red lights - more due to carelessness than any deliberate attempt by motorists to target cyclists.

Richard Greenhough ● 27d

“ I also see many cars completely blocking the cycle lane when they pull out of the side roads to join the High Road, despite the give way signs positioned BEFORE the cycle lane.”Yes, I think many motorists are so fed up with cyclists breaking the law and jumping red lights, causing motorists to brake to avoid hitting them, that they will indeed take every opportunity to reciprocate irresponsible and arrogant behaviour to inconvenience cyclists. The bad behaviour of the vast majority of cyclists has brought this on so the few decent cyclists, like me, have to suffer and have their wits about them at all times. Cycling has become extremely dangerous and will become more so irrespective of the £millions being thrown at cycling infrastructure. Hence you see so many unused cycle lanes. Thousands of cyclists are now reverting to other means of transport. There will come a time when cycle lanes will be almost exclusively used by high speed delivery bikes.

Steve Taylor ● 27d

I am more than happy to express equal regard for minds as enlightened as yours in real life.

Paul Campbell ● 27d

Clown Campbell, living proof that cycling does make you more stupid.I presume you were the runty kid at school who had his head pushed down the toilet on a regular basis. Hence your keyboard bullying, which is counterproductive in promoting your cause.If you took any notice of anything you might understand that plenty of people aren’t anti-cycling, but they don’t agree with the aggressive and bullying approach of the LCC. Former members of that organization have posted on this forum that they left because dissenting voices aren’t allowed.I wonder if you are so brave with your vitriol in real life? I doubt it very much.

Simon Hayes ● 27d

Wow that was a really invigorating defence of yourself against accusations that appear nowhere on this thread. I am of course convinced that you are a huge supporter of cycling now that you have told me that you are. Welcome to the future! I feel very privileged to be as enthusiastic about your support as I am about the simplicity of your mind.

Paul Campbell ● 28d

Poor little Paul. Such a vivid imagination. You’ve heard of projection? Well, you are proving to be a classic case of that here. You’ve interpreted it all wrong, yet again.I’m not against cycling. If that’s what people want to do then do it they can. But it’s a minority activity mainly done by Mamils (of which you are one). Claiming it’s the answer to all life’s problems is a very simple minded approach. Despite all the expenditure and campaigning and vilification of non-believers it’s still only a tiny minority who cycle regularly. Dwindling further in the dark, winter months. All your bluster does little to conceal your insecurity.I do hope you take some solace from the fact that you are one of life’s clowns. Spreading amusement with your pithy observations and your utter detachment from reality!

Simon Hayes ● 28d

You don't need to take my word for it Chris. Because it isn't my word. I am merely reporting the results from the TfL cameras that are counting you and me and the thousands of other cyclists using the lane every day. Isn't tech great?And I can also help you with the people going to restaurants on bikes thing. Just so you know restaurants are also open at lunchtime and people do cycle to them. But you can now also imagine one person who cycles to them in the evening too! It's me! I cycled to a very nice restaurant for a business dinner in NoHo last night wearing, if I may humbly say so rather elegant garb, and then cycled all the way home to Chiswick afterwards. The beauty of a Brompton.

Paul Campbell ● 28d

I use the cycle lane on Chiswick High Road at least twice a day, usually shopping and / or going to the gym (Hogarth Club). I'm sorry to report that I don't see much evidence of Paul's claim of "Thousands of cyclists" using the cycle lane.On the evidence of my own eyes I would say that pretty much every Lime Bike, Deliveroo or JustEat rider goes straight through a red light, especially at Dukes Avenue / CHR junction which of course means they speed up to avoid the traffic turning right and end up going at speed to weave through the pedestrians on the crossing.For balance I also see many cars completely blocking the cycle lane when they pull out of the side roads to join the High Road, despite the give way signs positioned BEFORE the cycle lane. Some of these drivers are apologetic when I skid to a halt inches from their passenger door in order to avoid t-boning them but others jsut stare at you as they position their car across the lane, eye contact and a stony expression being the order of the day.And I cannot think of one person in elegant going-out garb who cycles to a restaurant in the evening, especially in Winter!!!

Chris Blackwell ● 28d

No I don’t think I’m remotely mistaken in my interpretation of your rather obvious excitement at the police tweeting that they told off some cyclists. You even see it as something you can weaponise against cycle campaigners! I presume you are used to clutching vainly at ever-shrinking little straws? Don’t worry we can all look forward to the next Sweaty Simon Day in 2025 now you’ve alerted us to its simple joys.

Paul Campbell ● 28d

You mistake delight for amusement. A common problem for you to understand anyone other than your fellow incels, hence your constant ranting against normal people. You really don’t understand that you are an extremist.

Simon Hayes ● 28d

One again I reiterate how happy I am with your excitement at the police telling off some cyclists. I envy the simplicity of minds that are so easily satisfied.

Paul Campbell ● 28d

Oh dear, clutching at straws now, aren’t we Campbell. Sounds like sweaty thighs are more your thing, particularly after a nice Lycra clad bike ride. You seem genuinely upset, you poor little lamb.Perhaps you really were stopped by the cops. How unfair that your Twat Run chums aren’t perfect. Imagine that! Robinson’s boiled bacon head will be steaming at tomorrow nights meeting!

Simon Hayes ● 28d

No Simon you’ve got me all wrong. I am genuinely delighted with your happiness at this tweet on X from the police. Really pleased for you. It’s so easy to picture your frenzied rubbing of your generously proportioned and sweaty thighs. Maybe next year you could plan a trip to Boots to coincide with the police’s annual dishing out of some red meat and pick up some viagra to really make a proper day of it. We could call it Sweaty Simon Day if you like?

Paul Campbell ● 28d

Michael, there are thousands of cycle journeys every day on that cycle lane precisely because it is where people want to be - schools, shops, restaurants etc. I am sure that your neighbours who are using it to take their children to school or to just go about their daily business will appreciate your causal observations about its efficacy and desire to banish them to the wilderness of Chiswick’s unfortunate motorway. Do you also think it is practically impossible to cross the cycle lane because of the large volumes of dangerous cyclists using it?

Paul Campbell ● 28d

No I just observe and pay attention whenever I'm on the CHR, which is pretty much every day. Let's be honest here, one third of CHR is basically empty whilst the other two thirds are now generally gridlocked.I'm sorry Paul, but this particular cycle lane is in completely the wrong place. Should parallel the A4 to Brentford and Kew Bridge.

Michael Callahan ● 28d

Oh yes, the cycle counts on the Twat Run (aka C9). As reliable as those signatures on the anti-government petition. Considering the number of people travelling through the area, counting a small number of cyclists isn’t much of a victory. Take out the deliveroo and Ubereats ones and it looks really piss poor.And the horror that some of them are being collared for breaking the rules. Maybe Campbeis one of them.A strong hint of bitterness in Campbell’s responses here. Usual arsey dismissal of anything that contradicts his narrow world view. He probably doesn’t realise quite a few people who posting here are younger than many in his cycling cabal.

Simon Hayes ● 28d

You clearly haven't seen the cycle counts on C9.

Paul Campbell ● 28d

Well, to be effective, aside from the Met Police not wearing hi-vis in the process, it would require actual cyclists using the cycle route. A bike or two every couple minutes riding past in either direction isn't going to have much effect on anything . . .

Michael Callahan ● 28d

"You said, we listened."And told some people off a bit. How easily satisfied you are. They should increase the frequency to once a year to keep you all sitting smugly in your armchairs sucking your Werther's.

Paul Campbell ● 28d

Some mistake, surely?So police dealing with people breaking the law is ‘performative’ if it involves cyclists. But not if it’s anyone else. Surely Campbell should applaud all miscreants having their collars felt.

Simon Hayes ● 28d

Far more satisfied with the police action in Ealing today which only took two policemen but had a line of bicyclists being ticketed and spoken to as they jumped the red light's on the Drayton Green Road junction. And not before time.

N V Brooks ● 28d

Glad they've satisfied the velophobes with that performative action.

Paul Campbell ● 28d

Good news that they are prosecuting more twat cyclist red light jumpers.

Steve Taylor ● 28d

Ah, but ‘strong advice and education for cyclists’ sounds like the real reason. All those idiots using the Twat Run and not knowing the rules of the road. Who’d a thought it?!

Simon Hayes ● 28d

6 police stood at a junction in Hi-Vis will only ever catch one illegal e-bike.

Paul Campbell ● 28d

Pictures on Twitter / X

Nick Jenkins ● 28d

Good work:Chiswick Police@MPSChiswickYou said, we listened. Chiswick & Hounslow SNT bike Op on the High Road today. Focus on Red light jumpers and illegal eBikes. Along with strong advice and education for cyclists, one illegal eBike was seized and the rider will go to court for various driving offences.

Nick Jenkins ● 28d