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Michael, I congratulate you on your higher standards but sometimes you have to work with what data is available.While accepting that the Department for Transport data on the number of motor vehicles is deeply flawed, can we completely discount it in the absence of other more reliable numbers? The methodology of estimation isn't going to give a precise number but the assumption that Chiswick High Road might have followed the broader trends seen elsewhere in London since the last manual count is likely to give us a sense of the broader picture. It is assuming the number of motor vehicles on CHR is down post Covid because they have data for similar roads for that period. While there may be specific factors that would lead to that being wrong, as it appears to be for the estimates on the cycle count, I can't think of any that would apply to motor vehicles for Chiswick High Road and there are other factors that might indicate that the fall might have been greater than the DfT estimates.Therefore while there is no proof, and your high standards may prevent you from accepting this, it seems a reasonable conclusion that the number of motor vehicles has fallen significantly on Chiswick High from 2019 to the present day.We do have numbers that would meet your high standards which show categorically that congestion has increased in Chiswick during this period. So the data that we have tells us that traffic delays have risen at a time when the number of vehicles probably has fallen.The relevance of this is that number of vehicles will increase again due to the Rivercourt Road restriction. Hopefully you would agree that an estimate of a quarter of those that previously used Rivercourt Road will now come through Chiswick which would be an extra thousand vehicles a day which is probably just shy of a 10% increase in non-bus motor traffic.What we need to ask is how this will affect local roads. Will the queues on the designated routes mean that SatNavs start to direct vehicles up roads such as Heathfield Gardens, Sutton Court Road, Dukes Avenue and maybe even Ashbourne Grove. How will these diversions affect the bus route on Chiswick Lane, which has already seen substantial increases in delays and how will bus travel times along Chiswick High Road be affected? Will the extra vehicles transecting C9 shift collision risk to Chiswick?You may have an opinion on the answer to these questions but we don't anything for sure because not even the most basic research or modelling has been done and Hounslow Council is supinely accepting a change which may have a very major impact on our area.

Francis Rowe ● 25d

Francis,You need to read what I posted, not keep inventing things.I made no comment at all about trends of motor vehicle traffic on CHR.I certainly wouldn't rely on the DfT estimated figures because of the limitations the DfT themselves state on their website.If you wanted to get actual data, you could get the data from TfL traffic counters on CHR and compare what the motor vehicle counts were between 7am to 7pm on say, Weds 17 Apr 2024, Weds 19 April 2023 and the last DfT actual (not estimated) counts on 18 April 2018 and DfT actual (not estimated) counts prior to 2018.It is you who completely ignored (or didn't even see in the first place) the disclaimers the DfT state themselves regarding their estimated figures. Either you didn't see this or you think that traffic measured during 12 hours on one day in 2018 followed by 5 years of estimates that don't even take into account that a cycle lane has been built is more accurate than 4 years of continuous measurements by TfL cameras.Either way doesn't reflect well on your ability to analyse information hence a possible explanation why your predictions are wrong so often.Irrespective of the increase or decrease of motor vehicle traffic, it appears that you are failing to knowledge that the design of C9 itself has resulted in a reduction of collisions and along with the increased numbers cycling, a large reduction in the rate of collisions.A significant number of collision types (dooring, cyclist hit from behind) have been designed out by Cycleway 9.  Signalising and separation of cyclists at junctions has further reduced collisions and measures to slow down vehicles crossing unsignalled junctions is further mitigation.It appears that you are unable to acknowledge this. Just as you are unable to acknowledge that if vehicles are displaced from a junction with minimal design features to protect pedestrians and cyclists to a junction that has design features to protect pedestrians and cyclists, this will improve safety.

Michael Robinson ● 27d

Tom, your claim that 'congestion seems to be easing overall' is based on the selection of the one piece of data that could support that view. If you look at the figures more broadly it is very clear there has been a significant increase in delays in Chiswick from 2019 to 2023. It is taking on average nearly an extra three minutes to travel between King Street and Chiswick Roundabout. Much of the extra journey time is in the centre of Chiswick. Remembering that this is an average and for much of the day the roads will be clear, the increased delays experienced at busier times will be much higher . On Chiswick Lane, you are right that delays have fallen here even though this is surprising given the reported increase in bus journey times on this road. However, there has been a larger offsetting increase in delays on Burlington Lane, which explains the increased queueing back to Edensor Road. One explanation could be that traffic is flowing more freely northbound on Chiswick Lane because it is being throttled at Hogarth Roundabout. Road     2023
2019 Delays per mile (seconds) Delays per mile (minutes) A315 King Street  (6897) 166
129.3 36.7 0.6 A315 Chiswick High Road (36947) 126
157.9 -31.9 -0.5 A315 Chiswick High Road  (16867) 335.7
181.1 154.6 2.6 A315 Chiswick High Road (56697) 155
147.1 7.9 0.1 King Street to Chiswick Roundabout 782.7
615.4 167.3 2.8





Chiswick Lane (36951) 180.6
212.8 -32.2 -0.5 Burlington Lane (48572) 107.9
63.4 44.5 0.7
288.5
276.2 12.3 0.2
Even if you don't accept that theory, these numbers show that rather than congestion easing it is getting worse in Chiswick. You and Michael have spent a lot of time and energy trying to discredit the Department for Transport figures I gave earlier showing the number of motor vehicles had fallen on Chiswick High Road, even though, as I understand it you don't dispute that this has actually happened.  We can probably assume that the recent very welcome fall the number of serious collisions on Chiswick High Road is to some extent due to there being fewer vehicles on the road and those that are there moving more slowly. As no traffic modelling has been done to estimate the impact of the diversion of vehicles into Chiswick due to the Rivercourt Road closure, nobody can really say for sure what the impact will be. However, it is a sound assumption that congestion and delays will increase on Chiswick Lane, Chiswick High Road and King Street. As average speeds will therefore fall, you could make the argument that the risk of serious collisions also drops but this will be offset by the increased number of vehicles.  Nobody can make confident predictions about what the impact of these changes here but I would say that a belief that junction design means that an increased number of vehicles does not represent and increased risk for people walking, cycling and driving in Chiswick is dangerously complacent.


Francis Rowe ● 27d

Francis, having dug out my post, I thought it worth comparing what we've seen on C9 to Schepers predictions in his 2011 paper.  C9 as originally designed (give or take the replacement of wands with kerbing) has since January 2023 delivered the junction setback and platforms on the High Road, and we now have 17 months of collision data to compare with 36 months from 2017 to 2019. From 2020 to 2022 there was the pandemic and various temporary versions of C9 that didn't offer all the mitigation. In the 2017 to 2019 period there were 12 cyclist collision injuries over 36 months, with an average survey ridership of 2200. From January 2023 to May 2024 there were 2 cyclist collision injuries over 17 months, with an average survey ridership of 3371. Hence the collision risk to cyclists is now reduced to just 23% of the risk prior to C9. C9 has actually outperformed Schepers prediction of 47%, halving his predicted risk! Obviously 2 is a low number of collisions and subject to sampling error, but we'd expect to have seen 9 collisions if the risk had been unaffected by C9, and 2 is a statistically significant reduction in comparison - there's a less than 1% probability of seeing such a low number of collisions if the rate was unchanged. So at least on C9 on the High Road, we can state unequivocally that after C9 was fully installed we have seen a significant improvement in cyclist safety.This result can be compared to C9 on King St, and specifically at Weltje and Rivercourt roads, where the mitigations have not been implemented and the increased risk is evident.

Tom Pike ● 28d

"most data on traffic movements involves a degree of estimate so you can't simply dismiss that which isn't telling the story you want it to."Francis, in this case we now have continuous camera counts along the High Road and King St, so it's very odd you choose to base you opinion on estimates made on a signal day's count in 2018! I'm not dismissing anything, it's you who are ignoring the most relevant data.Ironically, the Hammersmith Society previously lauded stopping up roads at the A4, saying the resulting "LTN" (their words!) allows an uninterrupted cycle route along the A4. Who would have thought that the eminently sensible solution of blocking the last two roads that take disproportionate amounts of traffic between the A4 and King St would now provoke such howling!"Basically you are telling us that there is no risk in the solution to a problem that you told us wasn't going to be a problem."Your memory, both long and short-term, appears to be failing you. As it turns out, those long posts I made in 2019 were spot on. I stated that data from the Netherlands on two-way cycling routes showed an increase in risk that must be mitigated by installing raised platforms and setback at the junctions. As I said at the time, it was critical that CS9, as it was labelled then, incorporated such mitigation. I hope it is your memory that is failing, or otherwise it looks like you're arguing in bad faith. Here's my post from 6/2/2019 to jog your memory. What we've seen on the High Road and King St is completely in line with the previous research I mention, Schepers et al. (2011), "Road factors and bicycle-motor vehicle crashes at unsignalised junctions"__________________________Stephen,The risks are independently determined - the whole point of the paper's analysis is to separate out the factors. This enables the relative risk to be separately quantified, and then combined to estimate the overall risk.The combination is simply a multiplication of the risk factors. You are misunderstanding probability if you think an increased risk cannot be mitigated by another factor to reduce the overall risk. For example, my usual route to work might cross three roads of average risk. However, if I find a new route crossing just one road but with twice the average risk, I should swap to this new route.The relative risks are quantified in the paper as follows:Two-way track: 1.75Cycletrack 2 -5 m back from road: 0.55Raised cycle track: 0.49Hence a two-way, raised track 2-5m from the road has an overall risk of 1.75 x 0.55 x 0.49 = 0.47, a reduced risk compared to single-track, unraised cycle route, less than 2 m from the main road.Of course a designer should try to use one-way tracks, but if that's not possible, it's better to install raised, set-back tracks than do nothing. Schepers shows that concentrating on just one factor, as you have done, does not lead to the safest design.In fact, if you want to ignore all but one safety factor, this paper also shows you've chosen the wrong one. A raised cycle path at intersections reduces the risk by a multiple 0.49 (0.32 to 0.77) while swapping a two-way for a one-way reduces the risk by 0.57(0.33 to 0.99). You should be concentrating your efforts on ensuring that all cyclepaths are raised at the intersections, as is indeed the case for CS9.You're not wrong that a two-way path increases risk, but you are quite wrong to make it the be-all and end-all of cycle path design, as this paper clearly shows.

Tom Pike ● 28d

Francis, it is very apparent why your predictions are so often wrong if you are “more comfortable with” what is literally an estimate based on an estimate based on an estimate based on an estimate based on an estimate rather than cameras counting actual numbers of people cycling.The DfT estimates don’t even consider that a cycle lane was built on CHR. They just take a figure from 2018 and adjust it based upon aggregated trends over a wider area.Yet again you are starting with your own biases and prejudices and working backwards to construct a fantasy that justifies them. In this case a belief that a figure from 2018 extrapolated forward 5 years with no account that a bike lane has been built is more accurate than a camera that records actual numbers of cyclists every hour, 24x7. All the source data from the TfL surveys is available should you want to analyse it.  I'm sure you won't though, that would be far too much effort.The challenge with Weltje and Rivercourt isn’t financial or the competence of the people doing the design - it is political will.  The leader of LBHF has a track record of not wanting to annoy drivers so action is delayed and compromised.  The attitude of council leadership is the key reason why different councils do different things when presented with similar scenarios.  Contrast with Hounslow.  The design of C9 would have been compromised if Wellesley Rd and Stile Hall Gardens had been left open to through traffic, but they were closed.  In LBHF, the leader still wants to appease drivers so there has been delay and compromise.The design principles involved are well established.  Keep vulnerable road users away from the source of danger based upon space (physical separation) and/or time (signals).  The designs will depend on the volume and speed of motor traffic and where it isn't possible to have separation with time/space, then reduce the volume and speed of the motor traffic.  The junctions with residential streets along CHR (like Airedale etc) do not have high volumes of traffic but measures have been taken to reduce speed of vehicles crossing the bike lane by tightening the radius of turns, raised entries etc.Dukes Ave has signals and based upon 2019 data anyway, the volumes of vehicles using Dukes Ave were actually less than the volumes currently using Weltje and Rivercourt.  I'd suggest that if Dukes Ave through route to the A4 was closed off, signals may not be needed and the junction there could just have entry treatments like the other residential streets on CHR.There are many other junctions on the London cycle network that are similar to Chiswick Lane but with higher volumes of traffic and an excellent safety record.

Michael Robinson ● 28d

Tom, most data on traffic movements involves a degree of estimate so you can't simply dismiss that which isn't telling the story you want it to.Personally I am more comfortable with the Department for Transport as a source rather than TfL which has a habit of using data for advocacy rather than transparency and has skin in the game on this issue.I will admit that the numbers of cyclists do need to be treated with a degree of caution as my own observation is that the number has increased significantly since C9 opened.On motor vehicles, I was under the impression that you acknowledged that their numbers had fallen since the cycleway opened. If that point is accepted and you also aren't claiming there is no correlation between the number of vehicles on a road and the number of collisions, then any fall in collisions on CHR may be partly due to this factor rather than the cycleway.Unfortunately we can't say the same for the King Street section. While we should all applaud the time and effort that people like Michael put into advising on the designs and he has made it plain he wasn't happy with what was initially implemented, the plain fact is that it was unsafe and lots of people got hurt.Whether this design will deal with the problem remains to be seen but it is being put in place by the same people who got it so wrong last time and now they have a financial interest in keeping it in place. The danger remains complacency and I have to say a statement like "Even if all the traffic using Rivercourt and Weltje Roads was diverted to Chiswick Lane, it would not cause any significant uptick in cyclist injuries on that road" epitomises that. Very few people are injured on Chiswick Lane despite the volume of traffic but by the same token very few are injured on Rivercourt or Weltje Road. Where they are getting hurt is at the junction with King Street. I worry when people like you make confident predictions that no more collisions will occur if all the traffic is transferred to Chiswick Lane and CHR as you made similar statements when people raised concerns about Cycleway 9. Basically you are telling us that there is no risk in the solution to a problem that you told us wasn't going to be a problem.Just to be absolutely clear, if you told me that shifting traffic to the Chiswick junctions might reduce collisions overall, rather than eradicate them altogether, I would agree. I am not arguing that nothing should be done about the dangerous junctions in Hammersmith & Fulham, just that we should be aware it isn't all upside.

Francis Rowe ● 28d

"These numbers also show that the number of pedal cycles on the central section of Chiswick High Road fell from 2020 to 2023 which will also explain reduced collisions."Are you referring to DfT Site Number 36947? As you appear to have looked at these, presumably you will have seen it says 'Estimated using previous year's AADF on this link' for the last 5 years.  The DfT haven't actually counted traffic on CHR since 2018.  All years since then are estimates. (AADF = Annual Average Traffic Flow).  The same is true for DfT Site Number 16867 on CHR nearer to Goldhawk Rd.  There are no actual counts since 2018.I certainly wouldn't rely on 6 years of estimates using estimates using estimates x6 which span Covid.However the good news is there is no need to use DfT estimates as TfL have counted the actual numbers of cycles on CHR using 2 different surveys. There is the annual Outer London survey which has been done every year since 2015 and since 2021 there have been traffic survey cameras doing counts every hour 24x7 at 4 locations along the A315.From the actual counts done by TfL annual survey, there was a 59% increase in cycling numbers between 2019 and 2023.So casualties are down, cycling numbers are up, overall cycling casualty rate is down substantially.A reduction in motor vehicle volumes will make the CHR safer for everyone.  That is good, isn't it?The cycleway was certainly not 'to all intents and purposes...fully operational' during 2022.  Throughout 2022 sections of the cycle lane were closed completely for construction so during year there were various combinations of sections with temporary infrastructure, sections with temporary infrastructure closed for construction and sections of partially completed upgraded infrastructure.You have no information whatsoever about the Chiswick Lane collision circumstances, the status of infrastructure at that time and the movements of vehicles involved in the collision.You really should rewrite your convoluted double negative "can't be absolutely stated that C9 hasn't..." for clarity but your claim that the main reason for reduced collision is fewer motor vehicles does not stand up to any scrutiny.For example, 'Dooring' was a significant proportion of cyclist casualties prior to C9 and these no longer happen on the cycleway.Your doom-laden 'transferring risk in our direction' makes no sense.  Restricting through traffic along Rivercourt and Weltje is simply the right thing to do both in terms of improving safety at the junctions and for the people who live on what are residential streets, not relief roads for the A316 and gyratory.I'm certainly not taking any guff from you Francis about safety on the cycleway given the work that I and others have done behind the scenes with Hounslow and TfL, going through the detailed engineering drawings to provide comments and  providing feedback on the implementations.  That involves far more time and effort that your keyboard warrior shtick. You also seem to have suffered amnesia about your series of predictions about the demise of the cycleway.  It appears that you are still in denial that anyone could possible prioritise anything other than cars. 

Michael Robinson ● 29d

While I don't deny liking the odd tipple, it has been a long time since I have been on a multiple day bender. If I have said that the Rivercourt Road closure will categorically result in more casualties at Chiswick Lane and Dukes Avenue then I misspoke. What will definitely happen is that the risk of collisions happening will increase as more vehicles will be crossing junctions at these points. Less serious collisions and near misses are happening all the time.Chiswick High Road had the lowest number of traffic casualties for 12 years because it had the lowest number of motor vehicles (excluding Covid affected years) using it since the Department for Transport began collecting records in  2000.  This shows that they have fallen from over 20,000 to 12,984.These numbers also show that the number of pedal cycles on the central section of Chiswick High Road fell from 2020 to 2023 which will also explain reduced collisions.As these trends don't match the rest of London it has to be assumed that the layout changes introduced by the Cycleway and the resulting capacity reductions caused by lane reductions and traffic light phase changes have caused additional congestion encouraging drivers to seek other routes or possibly some of these journeys 'evaporated'.https://roadtraffic.dft.gov.uk/manualcountpoints/16867When dealing with matters of risk it isn't right to use narrowed definitions to try and make your case. The serious collision at the Chiswick Lane junction took place in 2022 when to all intents and purposes, the cycleway was fully operational. The recent one at Dukes Avenue involved a scooter. The point is that collisions have happened and more are likely to occur if more vehicles are using these junctions.While it can't be absolutely stated that C9 hasn't made Chiswick High Road safer, clearly the main reason for fewer collisions is fewer motor vehicles. Unfortunately this hasn't worked in the King Street section where, despite there also being fewer vehicles collisions have risen.For that reason, it is hard to argue against H&F Council wanting to tackle the collision black spots in their borough. It may also be true that by transferring traffic flow across signalised junctions in Hounslow Borough on Chiswick High Road, overall risk is lowered but what can't be denied is that this restriction moves risk in our direction.When concerns were raised about the cycleway particularly regarding crossover points on a bi-directional route, you dismissed the risk and you were wrong. You are dismissing this risk now and I hope you are not wrong again but your track record does not fill me with confidence.

Francis Rowe ● 29d

Francis, you must have been continually drunk over several days because you kept on defending your view that closing Rivercourt would somehow lead to more casualties at Chiswick Lane, it wasn't a one off post.I've checked the collision data and since the upgraded C9 was fully opened in January 2023, there have been no cyclist collisions at the Dukes Ave or Chiswick Lane junctions (data goes up to 31 May 2024).In 2023 Chiswick High Rd had the lowest overall numbers of traffic casualties for at least 12 years. Cycle numbers have increased substantially over this period so the overall rate in terms of casualties per cycle km or similar normalised measure will have reduced.I'm not defending LBHF here:a) they haven't implemented the designs for Rivercourt and Weltje as originally consulted upon in 2017. What is there at the moment is akin to the temporary cycle lane along CHR prior to the upgrades during 2022.b) while implementing better designs would undoubtedly improve the junctions, ultimately there is still too much traffic crossing the cycle lane at those junctions.Signalising them in the manner of Chiswick Lane and Dukes Ave is probably impractical so that means restricting the volume of traffic.  LBHF have taken the first step with Rivercourt.  The next step will be Weltje. They will have taken far too much time to address the issue but they will get there eventually.For the "cycle lane should be on the A4" advocates, exactly the same issue would exist at the junctions of the A4 and these roads, except worse as vehicles are travelling faster when turning off the A4.  However numbers cycling on the A4 are tiny compared to the A315 so the safety issues at the A4 junctions with Rivercourt and Weltje is not apparent through casualties there,LBHF and TfL engineers know full well how to achieve the safest implementation.  Delay and watering down designs is to appease car drivers.

Michael Robinson ● 30d

https://www.hammersmithsociety.org.uk/rivercourt-road-a-new-two-way-ltn/Last year, we were contacted by residents of Rivercourt Road concerned about the increased traffic they said they were experiencing. Rivercourt is the road formerly running one-way towards King Street from the Great West Road as shown adjacent, with its twin – Weltje Road – running one-way towards the A4.On Thursday, Rivercourt road became a trial two-way LTN with non-residents, Blue Badge holders, and businesses required to get a permit or be fined by ANPR cameras at the A4 junction. On the same day, Rosamund Adoo-KD (Ella’s mother) described LTN’s as the worst thing ever . Regardless of the intent, we question whether this is the right solution.These roads are effective ways to get to and from the A4 and King Street without going all the way to Hogarth Roundabout or adding to Hammersmith Broadway congestion and emissions, and are therefore important for a significant number of residents, non-residents, schools, visitors and businesses alike – plus the wider environment – hence our interest.The council have not published audited statistics, though claim ‘4000 motorists’ a day which in itself implies private cars, but is just as likely to be your plumber, a delivery van, or a coach serving the three adjacent schools. Some residents of the road have been campaigning to reduce traffic; and there are of course concerns about the increased number of cycle-related accidents at the junction with King Street since C9 was added, notably including a vocal Jeremy Vine.The LTN was created by a discreet 18 month temporary traffic order in September . It was announced publicly on 20th November – the same evening that Conway were photographed burning off the road markings – and implemented with unseemly haste the next day.  The fixed signage shown, matches the discreetness of the traffic order, especially amongst the visual cacophony of all the other signage, and one can imagine that many won’t have time to read it, and its potentially expensive consequences, having come off the busy and faster A4. The council will be rubbing their hands with glee as their coffers fill up.  Recall that the South Fulham TCPR was created the same way, then made permanent, further dividing the residents, creating a 12,000 signature campaign, and pushing some businesses over the edge, while rapidly ballooning the council’s £34 million fines income. It’s been suggested that speed bumps might be a rather simpler and better disincentive, but that would cost money rather than raise it. Despite LBHF claiming to have done a deal with Uber, some Uber drivers and cab firms still won’t serve the TCPR zone, not wanting to take the risk of being fined. Once bitten, twice shy. We’ve also heard of tradesmen that prioritise other jobs, and/or charge extra or simply refuse to attend properties within such zones.The proposed ‘turning circle’ appears an unusually dangerous concept on such a busy road and doesn’t yet exist as the adjacent photo shows. The current arrangement is clearly noncompliant with the highway code (clause 201), needing a reversing manoeuvre into the busy A4 as the photo shows. A similar concept in Fulham has raised concerns at the adjacent school –  they ask locals not to use it.BackgroundIn June 2023, the council announced that they’d be changing the King Street / Rivercourt road junction to address C9 accidents, a potential danger we’d highlighted before C9 was built, and have since documented. The proposal was to narrow the throat so that cyclists and drivers could see each other more easily, with room for only one vehicle at a time – so far, so good. This went ahead with some limited local opposition due to loss of school coach parking space, but support of those looking to reduce traffic levels and reduce C9 dangers. It appears that traffic queuing problems – not necessarily volumes – have increased since C9 due to delays in getting across the difficult and somewhat dangerous junction into King St, and not apparently improved by the narrowing.  Vehicles travelling the other way into Rivercourt under the new 2-way scheme could produce unexpected hazards for C9 cyclists and pedestrians, as Latymer Upper have advised their pupils.Weltje road residents appear to have a range of opinions on the suggestion by the council for something similar in their road, one writing to us describing the proposals as “mind numbingly stupid”, but others supporting a second LTN.The imposition of this LTN appears to be the consequence of trying to make a poor plan work in the real world, without enough design thought or meaningful consultation – a doubling down on earlier errors, rather than a careful rethink.Consultation and InformationThe council held a hyperlocal consultation with Rivercourt residents in March this year in which they say that the majority of attendees were in favour of the LTN scheme. But this involved just 7 supporters, and we note the addressing of ‘volume’, not risks or queuing. TfL modelling suggested no ill effects on the A4 – unsurprising given the relative sizes of the A4 and Rivercourt. There’s no mention of the effect on the Broadway or Chiswick High Road, already seriously congested, resulting in the slowest average bus speeds on record at just 8 mph in Hammersmith. The impacts on the ‘4000 motorists’ will be substantive as will the no-go problems experienced in the south Fulham TCPR.Residents raised concerns about removal of parking space, particularly for the adjacent schools and their related coaches, adding to the problems caused by C9 which prevents temporary parking, creating so-called ‘sterile kerbs’ in King St.  Latymer Upper were not directly consulted, and have raised ‘strong objections’ with this further imposition.The March event was so local that there’s no record of it three or four streets away, and in fact there were no announcements of plans to the wider community until the day before it was implemented. The dates on the council information flyers show that they were originated less than a week before implementation, the website article appeared on the 20th.The council’s page and publicity on the subject appears surprisingly reactionary, saying ‘80% of those motorists are out of borough commuters’. How do they know they are ‘commuters’ (is that a crime?), why use the word ‘motorist’ (an intentionally loaded term), and are ‘out of borough’ lesser mortals (surely not illegal immigrants? – Ed) and what if the side effects damage businesses, such as Hitchcock & King, pushed over the edge by the South Fulham LTN? The air pollution statement shown appears out of context from a 2018 WHO paper, largely concerned with extreme pollution in the Global South, the numbers revealing an ALRI attributable death rate of  3 per 100,000 in the UK, i.e. 0.003%, a significant proportion of that miniscule number having causes unrelated to air pollution.As a resident or business you can apply for a permit for a visitor via their clunky Ringo App which residents say is unfit for purpose (offering just one user per address), but that didn’t save Hitchcocks, badly affected inside the TCPR, and their popular nearby Hammersmith branch no longer exists. There is at least supposed to be a three-week grace period before fines are issued.ConclusionThis seems to be yet another divisive LTN pitting resident against resident, just one street apart, plus schools and businesses against the council, a typical problem with LTN’s across London – the same issues seen with the South Fulham TCPR under the same management. A small handful of people gain, while the vast majority lose, including those stuck on buses in congested King St. least able to make alternative arrangements. Importantly in the world of ‘growth’ : real businesses suffer as documented, while the dangers have not been been proven addressed.The council’s public ‘othering’ of  people going about their normal lawful business is extraordinary.

Michael Good ● 30d

Slightly surprised to see Hammersmith & Fulham introduce this now. When it was discussed before there had been a lot of nasty injuries to cyclists at these two junction but it was my understanding that, for the last 12 months or so, this problem seemed to have resolved itself.At the time it was argued that although this would move the point at which going to and from the A4 cross the Cycleway to the Dukes Avenue and Chiswick Lane junctions, this was okay because they were signalised. Recent events might indicate this is complacent.80% of traffic is not cutting through the borough but presumably H&F have done some sort of number place analysis which shows that 80% are not registered there. The reality is that your final destination if you are cutting up Rivercourt Road is likely to be Hammersmith.If the number of locally owned vehicles is much higher than this and if delivery companies can get a group exemption, changing such a narrow road to two way operation is likely to go badly wrong.It will be interesting to see how Hounslow responds to this as a lot of this traffic will now go up Dukes Avenue and Chiswick Lane. The latter is already experiencing much increased congestion and reduced bus times. Tit for tat access restrictions might result.Another reason I believed that they wouldn't go ahead with this is the collision risk from a vehicle stopping sharply after turning off the A4 and realising they would get a fine. H&F seem to have tried to deal with this by introducing a turning circle and two way operation but that still seems likely to result many vehicles needing to stop very suddenly in the left had lane of the A4.

Jeremy Parkinson ● 33d