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Even Rachel Reeves understands this. A pity Sadiq Kahn doesn’t but it doesn’t really matter because he doesn’t count anymore. “The UK automotive industry is a vital part of the UK economy, contributing to the country's exports, employment, and overall economic health. 


Automotive industry in the UK debate - House of Commons Library15 Sept 2023 — Economic data In 2022, the manufacture of motor vehicles and parts contributed £13.3 billion to the economy. 


The charge towards change: The UK auto industry’s path to ...10 Oct 2024 — A Cornerstone of the UK Economy: The Current Strength of the UK Automotive Industry. The automotive industry is a key contributor to the UK economy,* Exports 
The UK automotive industry is a key contributor to the UK's trade balance, with 79% of vehicles produced exported. The European Union is the primary market for UK exports, followed by the US and China. 


The charge towards change: The UK auto industry’s path to ...10 Oct 2024 — A Cornerstone of the UK Economy: The Current Strength of the UK Automotive Industry. The automotive industry is a key contributor to the UK economy

* Employment 
The automotive industry employs over 780,000 people across the wider industry, including 182,000 in manufacturing. The average worker in automotive manufacturing earns more than the average worker in the UK. 


Economy - SMMT Automotive's Economic Contribution – Key Industry Indicators * Turnover – Automotive manufacturing turnover was £67 billion in 2022. * Gross value added 
* Economic contribution 
The automotive industry contributes billions of pounds to the UK economy, including £13.3 billion in 2022 from vehicle and parts manufacturing, and £30.6 billion in 2022 from the wholesale, retail, and repair of motor vehicles. 



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Automotive industry in the UK debate - House of Commons Library15 Sept 2023 — Economic data In 2022, the manufacture of motor vehicles and parts contributed £13.3 billion to the economy, 0.6% of the UK's total output. 
The automotive industry also supports other sectors, including:* Vehicle fuel industry* Car finance firms* Motorsport* Travel, advertising, and media* Sciences and education “



Steve Taylor ● 24d

And of course one of the biggest Labour financial blunders and waste of taxpayer money was the two Scotsmen,  Darling and Brown, bailing out their precious Royal Bank of Scotland, contributing to the financial mess they left to the Tories. Admitted by Liam Byrne. “ the claim that the government was justified in taking over RBS because of some market failure, and that its doing so would enhance economic efficiency, can be seen with the benefit of hindsight to be as bogus as it obviously was at the time.Another set of recent events that shines a light upon the bank bailouts has rather slipped under the radar. One of the other big claims about the bank bailouts was that they were necessary in order to avoid economic disaster. The chutzpah of the self-interest of that claim somehow passed most comment by at the time.From the mid-1970s to 1990s economists told us that when shipbuilders, car companies, steel works, coal mines and the like shut down, that was necessary for economic efficiency, even when it resulted in systemic damage to whole regions, with other connected firms and industries shutting down across large parts of the North-East, South Wales, Scotland and the Midlands and unemployment elevated for decades.In those cases, that was the market, and in the long-term the economy and society as a whole would benefit. Quite so – they were right then.But in 2008, it wasn’t folk with regional accents in dirty overalls and young people’s future employment hopes that would be affected, far away from the Metropolis. Instead, London bankers in suits and rich elderly depositors in failed banks were the ones who might lose money. Suddenly, the economists who — by a total coincidence — worked for the banks concerned, miraculously discovered that systemic risk was impossible for society to tolerate and allowing market forces to work would be an economic and social catastrophe.Well, as we know, this nakedly self-interested tale carried the day. Did bailing out the banks avoid a huge recession? No. In the UK we had the worst recession since the 1920s. In Spain and Greece unemployment went above 25 per cent and the West has seen its first sovereign default in generations. The bank bailouts failed that economic test.”

Steve Taylor ● 24d

Yawn. The reason for the large budget deficit in 2010 was the international financial crisis.  The deficit was even larger in 2020-21 and after all those years of conservative government and austerity. Was that all the Tories fault? Of course not, there was covid. These big world events have more impact than any government regardless who is in charge. However total debt continued to increase during all those austerity years that were meant to balance the books and, without action, the deficit would be £40bn (not £22bn, that’s just the amount they hid, the rest was known about if not exactly talked about). On top of this the last 14 years have given us stagnant wages, low investment, large increases in NHS waiting times (even before  covid), and since Brexit very high migration and reduced trade. Plus the largest tax burden since WW2. Not exactly a great record. And the constraining legacy of Brexit will hamper all governments over the next twenty years or so. Yes the tax burden will go up even higher now and Labour have cornered themselves by committing to no employee NI or income tax increase. Doubt they’ll reform the iniquitous council tax either. The country needs investment in public services and infrastructure, it’s a no brainer. We also need an overhaul of how infrastructure is delivered as it’s too expensive in this country compared to others. One week on from tomorrow’s budget it’s the American election. If Trump is elected I fear we will be headed for another global event that no UK government can mitigate.

David Turner ● 25d