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Keir Starmar

I was listening to him earlier on at the Labour Party Conference, and he asked for the return of the 'sausages'. I wonder which ones he was referring to? Cumberland, Chipolata, Sage and onion or Richmond Pork?

Brian Coyle ● 94d70 Comments

He just sounds like a boring nasal Methodist minister intent on putting everyone to sleep so they donate mindlessly to the collection box without waking up. He could actually patent Keirisma as a remedy to get people to sleep.

Steve Taylor ● 86d

I'm afraid that, apart from everything else, he's just lacking in Keirisma.

Colin Joseph Jordan ● 86d

Dont say any more.Vanessa is getting all wound up. Mind you,its ok the other way which is why the responces have you put down labour,il remind you of the cons.As i say,you talk 2 wheels,il talk 4 wheels.Its a funny world,and based on the last few months,its not going to get any better.I see starmer is 2nd fav to be gone in 2025 just behind 2028. The idea they made a market says all you need to knowTa La

Julian Pavey ● 87d

My issue with the new government is the quality of their policy decisions up to present.The acceptance of gifts and favours is a bit dodgy,that goes for all the Tory boys and girls who were on the receiving end of them when they were in power,but policies and their implementation are what I judge a government by.

Keith Iddon ● 87d

Of course we would because it would be the kind of profligacy that one would expect from a Labour government. A party well versed in spending what it does not have.

N V Brooks ● 87d

Pot, kettle.

Janice Evans ● 87d

To paraphrase Mandy Rice-Davies - Well you would say that - wouldn't you? A lot of you would still be moaning if the P.M. had been out throwing gold sovereigns at people, it's what you do.

Vanessa Smith ● 87d

Vanessa you should read a previous comment from Julian, Kier made a point of ‘ cleaning up politics to win back the trust’ pre election so he is a complete hypocrite given the behaviour of a few that we know about immediately they got  into power. That’s Julian’s point……he made it rather well 😂😂😂

Jayne Thorburn ● 87d

Yes, not a wise decision, if people could be trusted to play nicely that would be O.K. I think that they've all shown that they can't, and that regulation is needed.

Vanessa Smith ● 87d

'You understood it quite perfectly in my bookLikely had no reply''Your book'? You jest surely? Haven't the foggiest what you are talking about.

Vanessa Smith ● 87d

You understood it quite perfectly in my bookLikely had no reply

Julian Pavey ● 87d

“ These blasted 'rules' are not fit for purpose and need a complete overhaul so that there can be no doubt about what is right. “You are absolutely correct but Rayner and Starmer have made it perfectly clear that they are NOT going to instigate any review of the rules for the purpose of changing them.

Steve Taylor ● 87d

“You cannot speak for all pensioners”Of course I can’t; but I can read the room!

Steve Taylor ● 87d

I'd do you the courtesy of a reply - if I understood one word of that gibberish.

Vanessa Smith ● 87d

Makes a change from your years oftory bashing.To be honest,your kind of makingyourself sound silly giventhe time frame so far. bikes, car labour, con It's the norm when one hatesthe bashing

Julian Pavey ● 87d

'and of course the pensioners are totally disgusted with them'.You cannot speak for all pensioners, just the same as the Tories at their conference cannot speak for 'the British people' and assume everyone thinks/feels the same - they don't.

Vanessa Smith ● 87d

“ and I reckon now the younger generation will see Labour for what they really are…….”Oh absolutely - they are already seeing it and of course the pensioners are totally disgusted with them. It’s interesting / refreshing to see how so many younger people are furious and demonstrating against the WFP cuts which doesn’t even affect them. Fortunately the Labour Party will be long gone by the time I get old but I pity the old people now who have been stabbed in the back

Steve Taylor ● 87d

Oh dear! We do like to gang up and have a  bash don't we? Barely three months since the election and the right-wing faction still haven't got over losing. I don't think anyone  believes that accepting gifts - regardless of what they may be was not a smart move, but just one thing - we all know because they were declared in the Register of Interests, which is what the 'rules' require, but think back to Cameron etc. who were all just as guilty BUT did not declare such things, but subsequently got caught out, some do have short and convenient memories on this Forum. These blasted 'rules' are not fit for purpose and need a complete overhaul so that there can be no doubt about what is right. So stop the wingeing and finger pointing and just get over yourselves.

Vanessa Smith ● 87d

I hope you are right sadly the signs are very negative let’s see what RR has to say come the budget hopefully she has been rethinking the negativity she has been spreading

Jayne Thorburn ● 87d

They should know, remember what they promised students the last time they got in,  I would prefer we don't have all this disruption again though and that things will settle down hopefully.

Janice Evans ● 87d

That’s hilarious Julian and the actor is spot on. It’s actually quite an embarrassment that the UK has a Deputy Prime Minister like that.

Steve Taylor ● 87d

How Keir, Angela can defend the indefensible is beyond me they are really showing their true colours. Super sad as my guess is everyone was relieved they won the election and I reckon now the younger generation will see Labour for what they really are…….

Jayne Thorburn ● 87d

Steve, then maybe they should pass gifts to charities.

Janice Evans ● 87d

Here is the latest instalment from your Fav steve

Julian Pavey ● 87d

This is two kiers pledgeThe Labour leader will pledge to restore standards in public life with “a total crackdown on cronyism” in a speech on Thursday marking the beginning of the election year.He will add: “To change Britain, we must change ourselves – we need to clean up politics. No more VIP fast lanes, no more kickbacks for colleagues, no more revolving doors between government and the companies they regulate.“I will restore standards in public life with a total crackdown on cronyism.”The problem with all this thats going on,most people dont live a luxury of having thousands of pounds of clothes bought for them and his wife or flying out to stay in a luxury appartment in NY or all sitting around a VIP box at arsenal.For many voters including labour voters,its a bad look, and starmer,well,he just does not get it one bit.

Julian Pavey ● 87d

It’s unacceptable that Stammer and his wife accept donations to buy clothes and glasses.  They earn enough to buy their own clothes.

Steve Taylor ● 87d

The taking of gifts I think is more to do with the fact they don't like others todo well or god forbid become wealthy, so it appears hypocritical to accept gifts from them.  Otherwise I do think this has always been the norm to accept gifts.

Janice Evans ● 88d

Well in just a few weeks it’s pretty obvious that even Labour backbenchers are now deserting the party as they don’t trust Stammer or Rachel Thieves.  And Cooper has just been a total disaster as Home Secretary.

Steve Taylor ● 88d

The thing is they all tell so many porkys or change their mind it's difficult to know who to trust.

Janice Evans ● 89d

Oh how refreshing to see Kemi Badenoch on the Laura Kuenssberg  show this morning. Articulate, intelligent, no nonsense and extremely clever. She demonstrated true leadership qualities. She didn’t shy away from difficult questions - she confronted them, unashamedly, head-on, openly and honestly. You know exactly what you are getting from her, unlike the wishy washy Starmer, Cooper and Reeves. It will be great if she wins the Leadership election and we see her destroy Stammer at PM  Questions.  Even better if she could be PM in 5 years time but it will be a difficult job to clean up the mess left by Labour who are disintegrating and imploding already after a few weeks. The downfall is much quicker than we thought.  I would think that with Kemi Badenoch leading the Conservatives it may even stem the flow of voters to Reform. Nigel will be panicking!!

Steve Taylor ● 89d

The best thing this government has done is to remove the VAT benefit for private schools.

Steve Taylor ● 89d

Funny how all this righteous indignation never reared its head with all those Tory MPs who had umpteen jobs outside Parliament? I would not defend taking gifts - but I would point out that at least they are known about as they have been declared in the Register of Interests, unlike some.....and I think the famous 'Rules' that govern all this should have a root and branch review, just because the 'Rules' don't specifically stop this doesn't mean they are right, and I imagine most of us think they really aren't.

Vanessa Smith ● 89d

We will never know for sure, but Kier and the other freeloaders should pay tax on the benefits they have received as they arise from their employment.40% for most of them, but don't hold your breath.

James Roy ● 89d

I wonder how state schools would cope if all children went to one.

Keith Iddon ● 89d

See post from Mr.Pavey 28/9/24 @ 21:43, there was a comment then and it was that I responded to.

Vanessa Smith ● 89d

I can't see a post here that decries state schools.Like just about everything else in life,there are good,average and bad.

Keith Iddon ● 89d

I have never made any secret of the fact that I support Labour and have done all my life, Jayne especially is a well-known 'basher' and Tory supporter, along with several others. There are many things I don't agree with and things they could certainly do better, locally I wouldn't give them house room. But they have inherited an appalling fiscal situation, and some of us 'get' that there are tough and unpopular decisions that have to be taken. It's just a pity that the Tories wanted people to like them more than they were prepared to tell the truth of the sh*t the country was in, and take the steps to rectify them. They would rather see the country go further down the pan in order to hang on to power at any cost. Having had the dubious delight of catching Kemi Badenoch arrogantly shouting her mouth off this morning, and seeing the rest of the poor offerings they have for Leader may I wish all you right wing souls Good Luck - you're gonna need it!

Vanessa Smith ● 89d

'I don't think you should talk down decent state schools.'The subject of the proposed 20% VAT on private school fees was on TV this morning. One parent said they were even considering moving house and they might have to forego a holiday! If you can afford to move house - given how much that costs these days - then that VAT is a drop in the ocean. There will be no tears shed in this house - we have some exceptional state schools - especially in this borough,  if people want to go private that's their choice.

Vanessa Smith ● 89d

Anyway,im calling it. I reckon starmer is ousted in 2025

Julian Pavey ● 89d

Where ? No person has done such.

Julian Pavey ● 89d

I don't think you should talk down decent state schools.

Philippa Bond ● 89d

😂😂😂😂 I know truly sad whatever happened to democracy and choice 😱😱😱 road to ruin with Starmer

Jayne Thorburn ● 89d

How dare you scrape a living to send your child to the school of your choice.How blooming dare you

Julian Pavey ● 90d

I'm sure it wasn't signed yours sincerely.

Keith Iddon ● 90d

....and totally accurate. 14 independent MPs now in the house, room for a few hundred more.

N V Brooks ● 90d

There is no love lost on either side of that one. Duffield and Badenoch have a lot more to agree with than Duffield and the Labour front bench.

Paul Campbell ● 90d

'aspiring parents'?'decent schools'?

Anne England ● 90d

Rosie Duffield's resignation letter is utterly brutal!

Susan Kelly ● 90d

Rishi did warn everyone so if people wont listen they have to accept it.

Janice Evans ● 90d

KeithSpecial KSir Beer KormaSir Kid StarverSir Softy/SoftieCaptain Hindsight,Queer HarmerTwo-tier KeirFree Gear KeirOnly 3 more to beat BoJo so plenty of time unless ive missed a few

Julian Pavey ● 90d

Indeed Jane. I thought that Vanessa Smith would have jumped in feet first.

Brian Coyle ● 90d

They said anything to get votes, be careful what you wish for they are putting us the road to ruin, talking the country done when in fact we are forecast to do better than any other G7 country in the next year which of course they look like they will destroy with tax hikes, VAT on private schools which will only affect aspiring parents who sacrifice a lot to send their kids to decent schools, bowing to unions with crazy pay rises, employment rights to make it even tougher for business growth, withdrawing the WFP for many pensioners who will suffer the list goes on just terrifying

Jayne Thorburn ● 90d

Might I just remind everybody what Rachel Reeves said back in 2017, on Thursday May 25th? "Love this poster from 1945. This time again, it's Labour who will stand up for pensioners, defending the triple lock & winter fuel payments". It was in conjunction with a picture of a poster, reading: "SHE LABOURED FOR YOU....NOW IT'S LABOUR FOR HER, written in red of course, above and under a picture of an old lady. Reeves also has this permanent half smile on her face, as if she's on something. Now she just plays follow my leader.  Starmer also misleadingly said that pensioners would get £900.00 this year and an increase of £400.00 next year, but forgot to mention that this apparently only applies to those who are receiving the current full new state pension. What a lying win double they both are. Anybody here voted Labour, and are prepared to say why?

Brian Coyle ● 90d

Dyslexia affects 1 in 5 people.

Janice Evans ● 90d

Vanessa, a few have explained they are dyslexic which is fairly commonproblem.

Janice Evans ● 90d

'You lefties cannot take a joke.'And the right wing loons can't spell......

Vanessa Smith ● 90d

Err indeed.

Richard Greenhough ● 91d

I don't, her Spoonerism summed him up perfectly.

N V Brooks ● 91d

I still pity that poor female broadcaster who got Jeremy Hunt's name badly wrong.

Denis I. Fox ● 91d

If he was reading from an auto queue then he should demand his money back from his optician.Oh, hang on a minute....err.

Adrian Irving ● 91d

You lefties cannot take a joke.

Janice Evans ● 91d

With you Bruce, and no-one has noticed that his name is spelt incorrectly - it is StarmEr.

Vanessa Smith ● 91d

The only silly sausages have been the last 14 years of government we have just escaped. I would include Reform, anti vaxxers, those still 'believing' in Brexit, and anti-lockdown afficionados in that but it would be too kind a comment for them

Bruce Dickson ● 91d

Was he thinking what a silly sausage I am 😉

Janice Evans ● 94d

In view of where the 'sausages' are from,they are unlikely to contain pork.

Keith Iddon ● 94d

He is never going to live sausagegate down.

Susan Kelly ● 94d

I should add though that Sunak was as bad, along with Johnson. They all have the same bosses at the World Economic Forum (WEF). All treacherous puppets; so when our economy was purposely being destroyed by locking healthy people up during the Covid scam, it's no surprise that the WEF were rejoicing at our predicament for what they publicly called 'The Great Reset'..

Michael Brown ● 94d

Most of my mates voted for the twat. I told them what would happen but they wouldn't have it. I'm slaughtering them now and they're not coming back with anything! 🤣🤣🤣

Michael Brown ● 94d

His nasal churchy unconvincing sermons are enough to put everyone asleep except the party faithful.

Steve Taylor ● 94d

Really?.....I fell asleep.

Nick Jenkins ● 94d