How awful - I hope our country goes to help soon -
Helen Bamberger ● 43d23 Comments
Apparently they do in theory, not in practice. One town seems to have escaped serious damage through the simple fact of having an un-bribable mayor running tight planning controls. Horrifying.And even worse in Syria
Sara Nathan ● 35d
Unfortunately that happens everywhere where the regulations are not taken seriously and work isn't supervised well.It just shows how important it is for all countries to make some preparations for worldwide emergencies and have good relations with other countries to be able to give a swift response. One charity I heard was going to recce a couple of days ago was: https://www.re-act.org.uk/news/ In Syria a doctor who has been working for the charity Hand in Hand in a hospital with little medical equipment anyway was obviously was emotional when asked about how he was coping with all the extra casualties. He was so grateful that his family was in another area and were safe - so that he could concentrate on carrying on with his work. The not knowing and waiting for news is desperate. https://www.facebook.com/hihfadUK/The big charities will also be looking for funds.
Philippa Bond ● 41d
They focussed on buildings post 1998.There are several methods for earthquale proofing.
Keith Iddon ● 41d
As I understand it to make buildings earthquake proof much more reinforced concrete is necessary from foundations upwards and ideally more flexibility in the building services and glazing units etc. This all costs more money. You need very good scrutiny by Building Control to make sure that regulations are followed.A lot of the buildings were probably built before 1998.In Syria where there has been 10 years of civil war a lot of the buildings have suffered in the same way as those in Ukraine. People were actually living in severely damaged buildings before the earthquakes.
Philippa Bond ● 41d
The lack of eathquake proof buildings in the region has just been mentioned on C4 news.This despite new regulations coming in after the 1998 earthquake there which killed 11,000.
Keith Iddon ● 41d
Before these earthquakes both Russia and China have at the UN Council been vetoing the passage of aid through routes from Turkey to Northern Syria and that is one of the reasons why the situation in Northern Syria has been so difficult. Many buildings there were already badly damaged.Yes, the UK has financial sanctions against Syria.
Philippa Bond ● 42d
I think you'll find it Syria that's being sanctioned by Europe and the US and not the other way around.Trust people to score cheap points when people are suffering.
Basil Finnis ● 42d
https://reliefweb.int/report/syrian-arab-republic/russias-veto-blocking-un-cross-border-relief-aid-unlawful-and-its-only-aim-seize-un-relief-aid-we-renew-our-years-long-call-putting-end-russias-exploitation-un-relief-aidGetting aid to some parts of the area are particularly difficult!I see that sadly the Qatari Red Crescent actually lost four personnel in the earthquake who had come from Turkey to work in Syria.
Philippa Bond ● 42d
They do not. Standards are a bit different. I lived in Turkey for a couple years and experienced an earthquake while there. While it was small, it was not the greatest experience.
Phil Hopkins ● 42d
There is a substantial Turkish community in London and around Chiswick too.They must be distraught at the news and pictures from their homeland....and many are making desperate phone calls to their families to check on their wellbeing.A few local cafés and restaurants are run by Turkish families... the Ritz in W6 and Oscars in W3 etc ... and our sympathy should be conveyed to them if passing.
Jim Lawes ● 42d
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Vanessa Smith ● 42d
I visited Christchurch in New Zealand shortly after the earthquake there, and it was notable how older buildings, such as the cathedral, which had been built before they upped their building standards, had suffered far more damage than newer buildings built to take earthquakes into account. Looking at the total collapse of many buildings in Turkey and Syria, I rather doubt if they had been built to standards that took the fact that they were in an earthquake zone into account. Just as the UK government was at fault for the building standards that allowed the Grenfell Tower disaster to happen, the Turkish and Syrian governments seem to have been at fault here, meaning the tragic loss of life was far greater than might otherwise have been the case. This is not a matter of trying to put the blame for the disaster on the unfortunate people killed and injured, but perhaps suggesting that lessons need to be learned for any government whose country is in an earthquake zone.
Richard Greenhough ● 42d
Indeed. And raising concerns about building standards elsewhere is a bit rich coming from a firm supporter of a government proudly committed to ripping up regulations here at home.
Alastair Banton ● 43d
What an unsympathetic comment! You give the impression the Turks may be, at least in part, the authors of their own misfortune.
Robert Fish ● 43d
Really? That's what you take away from this tragic loss of life? Carry on voting Tory, they deserve you.
David Roberts ● 43d
It would be interesting to know if Turkey's building standards take earthquakes into account, in the way those in New Zealand do.
Richard Greenhough ● 43d