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Do we really still trust him.

Do we really trust our government and Boris any longer?  My goodness - he is still trying to hang on in - let’s hope the 5th May we show this isn’t so ....I hope so.

Helen Bamberger ● 1647d45 Comments

Let me put it this way.Would I give him a job in a business that relied on customers trusting you?Not a snowballs.

Adrian Irving ● 1647d

Ha ! Adrian - when I hear some of  the government still backing him I just want to go to another country- the continent must be so laughing at us-

Helen Bamberger ● 1647d

I hate to say this, but in the real world our politicians aren’t dealing with others who are ‘whiter than white’ and sometimes a little underhandness might be a desirable ‘quality’. But in private, not in full gaze of the public. And if you do get caught out, apologize (sincerely and early on and don’t try to twist your way out of it)

Andrew Jones ● 1647d

35 apologies yesterday - one has to laugh at this ridiculous  tirade  ...I didn't see any honest apology .

Helen Bamberger ● 1647d

Quite honestly if Johnson really had to rely on 'advisors' to tell him whether or not he was at a party then he shouldn't even be allowed to feed Larry. All of us as we grow up realise that with rights go responsibilities for our own actions, as for the fawning lickspittle creeps on the government benches - they are as bad and I hope they will realise that they too will have to bear some responsibility for going along with this laughable charade. And these pathetic excuses of elected representatives are still addressing one another as 'Rt. Honourable' - as if.

Vanessa Smith ● 1647d

Never lied yourself?

gary strang ● 1647d

Never broke lockdown rules ? I know of many Chiswickians who broke lockdown rules...Oh and please don't tarnish our wonderful Conservative Councillors with the Boris Brush, unless of course you want Chiswick to be Labour 🙈

Loraine Pemberton ● 1647d

Yes Gary we all lie but not when we are holding the most important place in our country - I don't believe 35 apologies mean truthfulness !! We are re being laughed at on the continent - we need people in government who I said before we trust.

Helen Bamberger ● 1647d

Do we STILL …?  I haven’t trusted him for a very long time.  He’s a proven liar, a compulsive liar, and I actually wonder about the welfare of people who say they still believe in him because if they do they must be exceptionally gullible and in danger of falling for any sort of scam.

Alastair Banton ● 1647d

Yes I agree Alistaire - I have never trusted him and now proven !

Helen Bamberger ● 1647d

'Never lied yourself?'Typical cop-out excuse Johnson question - it's not about me or anyone else on this forum, neither are we elected to run the country - which is a pity as I'm sure any anonymous person from a bus queue would be able to do it better. Neither are any of us bound by ministerial codes of conduct. Sorry - won't wash.

Vanessa Smith ● 1647d

Never trusted him. Never will. Sacked for lying. Enough said.

Stewart Jones ● 1647d

"Never lied yourself?" The answer would almost certainy be "yes" for nearly all of us. Surely you're not using that as an excuse for Johnson's conduct? His lying is of a completely different magnitude. His entire career has been built on lying. You must also recognise that Johnson's lies as PM are much more reprehensible than those of ordinary citizens. As Prime Minister he needs to be like Caesar's wife.  How can people trust a man who deliberately and cynically misleads parliament? What sort of example is set by his contempt for parliamentary standards?

Robert Fish ● 1647d

How many Chiswickians were involved in making the lockdown rules? How many have regularly appeared on television preaching the importance of following them? And just who has tarnished your "wonderful Conservative Councillors"? Or are you just nervous that they may be tarnished by association with the scoundrel ensconced in 10 Downing Street?

Robert Fish ● 1647d

What is also truly shocking is how he is using the horror of Ukraine as a shield to deflect focus on his own deceitful behaviour.His snivelling grovel in The House was truly stomach churning made all the more unbearable by the weasel words of some other MPs trying to mitadate.The thing that infuriates me most is Johnson taking us all for mugs by claiming he didn't think he was breaking the rules. Let's see how that fairy story holds up when more fines drop on the doormat shall we.

Adrian Irving ● 1647d

You would moan if he never apologise and you moan if he do.

Janice Evans ● 1647d

That, sir, is the exact reason to hold Johnson in utter comptent. Him and his pathetic supporters in the Tory party. Rather than be realistic and admit that all this Johnson lying is preventing dialogue and action on serious issues they pretend that PM continuity helps. No it does not. Shame on every Johnson apologist.

Alan Clark ● 1647d

Actually I support anyone who is being bullied.

Janice Evans ● 1647d

He either lies or he is absolutely incapable of understanding his own rules.  So, a liar or an idiot.  We do not want either leading this country.  He should go.

Vivienne Cox ● 1647d

It's the opposition thinks he should go.

Janice Evans ● 1647d

So we have a shameless, dishonest, self-serving Prime Minister who has repeatedly lied in parliament, and in your view criticism of him is partisan bullying? Open your eyes, Janice, this is a question of integrity and decency, which transcends  party political considerations

Robert Fish ● 1647d

Oh the sanctimonious attitude of the Lefties.

gary strang ● 1647d

So you think Johnson is the victim here? That means that you think our little criticism of him and his actions on this little backwater forum is in some way bullying the PM of the UK? You think that Johnson’s decision to lie about there being any parties, then lying about being at any parties, then lying about any lockdown rules being broken (then being fined by the police in a direct confirmation that these were all lies) all add up to him being the innocent victim?Wow. You need to have a quiet word with yourself.

Alan Clark ● 1647d

"You would moan if he never apologise and you moan if he do."Absolutely Janice.His "apology" is not 'A Get Out of Jail Free' card and it makes difference to my view even if repeated thirty plus times.

Adrian Irving ● 1647d

How is it sanctimonious, left-wing or even right-wing to expect PM to tell the truth ?

Stewart Jones ● 1647d

All I can say is he must be really good because you are all so eager for him to go.

Janice Evans ● 1647d

Well Janice, let's just say I am mighty relieved that Putin has banned him from entering Russia. The though of him bumbling in there, opening his big mouth then sticking his foot in it is truly frightening. Now that fact is really good.

Adrian Irving ● 1647d

Don't believe he would ever have visit, but actually think they sort of got onI mean how can you place someone like Putin as better intelligence thanBoris, think Covid must have sent you all round the bend.

Janice Evans ● 1647d

Let's give Credit where it is due, Boris knew they were going to invade andtried to do much to prevent and no one would listen, he's no fool and well you lot know it.

Janice Evans ● 1647d

Janice, thank you for your views, they reassure me that mine don't need further reflection.

Adrian Irving ● 1646d

I think, like Prince Harry - Johnson suffers from 'Messiah syndrome' as do many of those who support him. That dreadful Peter Bone is on 'Politics Live' at the moment - it astounds me that these people who worship at Johnson's feet can stand up - they are all so  lacking in backbone, never heard such mealy-mouthed sanctimonious bullsh*t in my life. Please - tell me, who on earth needs an 'advisor' to tell them what is a party and what isn't? None of this lot are much of an advert for the education you pay shed loads for at Eton.

Vanessa Smith ● 1646d

It's not about BJ it's about Conservatives who are getting things done,things that are important to us.

Janice Evans ● 1646d

Adrian, everyone is entitled to their own views.

Janice Evans ● 1646d

How profound Janice.

Adrian Irving ● 1646d

Things are getting done. The IMF says next year in the G7 the UK will have the highest inflation, coupled with the lowest growth.

Nicholas Beard ● 1646d

Own views: Yes.Own facts: No.But then, some contributors to this forum are very evidence resistant.

T P Howell ● 1646d

It appears a good deal of Tory candidates themselves have come to the conclusion that the PM is not going to be a strong asset in the local elections:"London Tory candidates stand as ‘Local Conservatives’ in election in bid to deflect partygate"https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/london-local-elections-2022-conservative-candidates-partygate-b995491.htmlBarking and Dagenham, Merton, Croydon, Wandsworth, Camden, Ealing and Sutton voters will all see “Local Conservatives” listed on the ballot paper instead of the “Conservative Party candidate”.

Tom Pike ● 1646d

A very astute observation. This chimes with the reality of the confidence vote in parliament tomorrow. Tory MPs are going to be obliged to vote against a proposal to sanction Johnson for his lies. That will make many decent Tory MPs nervous and worried. Their local electorate will note their pathetic kowtowing to the Johnson cabal. These MPs have an awfully tricky choice. Show that they support a brazen liar or vote against their PM. The motion will be defeated. But the damage it inflicts on so many Tory MPs will run and run. Talk about self inflicted harm.

Alan Clark ● 1646d

"The motion will be defeated". Catch up, Alan, and rejoice! I don't know whether it sprang from a sense of honour or merely an instinct for self-preservation, but either way it's a welcome and unexpected development.

Robert Fish ● 1646d

Yes, I got that prediction wrong and it now seems that many Tory MPs have realised that Johnson is a liability. The clock is now ticking : do they ditch Johnson before or after the local elections ? Either way, it looks like Johnson will soon be on the back benches and back earning from newspaper columns and the speaker circuit.

Alan Clark ● 1646d

And yet so many of you are refusing to vote for your own party or destroying ballot papers, you do nothing to promote Labour and then wonder why the Conservatives win, you are your own worst enemy's.

Janice Evans ● 1646d

I think you maybe overlooking the critical point that it is previous Conservative voters who are considering these actions. Hence the attempt by some candidates to disassociate themselves from their national party by calling themselves “local Conservatives”. It looks like only the most slavish of the PMs admirers still see him as an asset in the upcoming elections.

Tom Pike ● 1646d

You still don't get it, Janice. Forget your party jousting. The Johnson question transcends party divisions, as evidenced by Conservative MPs' refusal to vote against the opposition motion to refer to the Privileges Committee.

Robert Fish ● 1646d

I'm not so sure about that Robert.

Janice Evans ● 1646d

How powerful is it ?

Janice Evans ● 1646d