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Justin,A few observations.Firstly, you have only referenced pollution as a consideration.  To that can be added other factors such as safety, noise and other 'quality of life' issues.In general, main roads are designed for high volumes of high speed traffic.  That is why they are called main roads. That is why large swathes of Chiswick housing were demolished to have 6 lanes for the A4. Minor roads haven't been designed for this volume and speed of traffic.  They have become routes for higher volumes of traffic in large part because that is where the algorithms of SatNavs are telling drivers to go.  I don't recall there being any consultations for this.These are the same algorithms used to direct drivers between strip malls in Podunk, Iowa.  They don't know or care what type of roads they are telling drivers to use.  I would hope you would agree that highway authorities shouldn't be surrendering control of the roads in London to Google and Waze.Regarding the response to the Emergency Traffic Order consultations.  Firstly, according to the defined process, the local authority is only obliged to listen to objections.  Responses of support are superfluous.  Secondly, it was interesting to note the age profile of the people responding was heavily skewed towards older age groups (>45).  There was minimal response from younger age groups.  The figures are what they are but the responses certainly aren't from a representative sample of the Chiswick population. The local authorities will obviously consider consultation responses along with a range of other factors, chief of which are the policies they have been elected to implement.Of course the Mayor has been re-elected and I don't expect a major change in the transport policy he was elected to carry out and I'd expect the funding provided to boroughs will reflect this.

Michael Robinson ● 1970d

"Now it is also true that LTNs do result in some traffic evaporation - the amount varies depending on design of LTN, but in all cases it is a non-negligible amount."Or in other words, LTNs have reduced overall traffic.The impact (by design) is to move traffic off minor residential roads and onto main roads - which are designed to take the traffic - and encourage a modal shift in journeys.The criticism is that this is unfair on those who live on main roads (anti-poor, racist etc.) as it is assumed only poor people live on main roads as the housing is cheaper.  They suffer in two ways - first all the traffic, noise and pollution and secondly, if you assume no traffic evaporation, more congestion, which makes the noise and pollution worse.  While discussing this with someone who was up in arms about the impact on the Great Chiswick Road, I (satirically!) suggested we follow Heathrow's example and give respite to the people who live on the A4, by closing it for a week a month and sending the traffic down alternative routes.He shot back that it was a bit different as the A4 was a 6-lane motorway - GCR was an A-Road, so hardly the same thing.I think even the people who make the arguments that it is unfair to push traffic onto main roads draw the line at doing anything about those who live on the biggest ones.There's been substantial growth in traffic over the last few years - most of it happening on minor roads - and apart from the hassle, noise, dirt and danger, air pollution increased to alarming levels.The point about LTNs and active travel infrastructure isn't actually to give unfair respite to white, rich people.  It is a step in first containing traffic before then reducing it.  Tom and others have noted that average times for buses and journeys haven't increased by much or at all.  Anecdotal evidence (mine included) is that at certain times, you can get snarled up in traffic that turns a 10 minute local journey into a frustrating 60 minute one.  One effective way to decrease local traffic - the one that got me out of a car and onto a bike for some trips - is to increase journey times by car.  If it is 90 minutes to drive up and down CHR, you going to walk it if you are able and probably delay / reschedule the trip if you can't.I'm not suggesting LTNs are designed to infuriate motorists out of their cars, although when TFL state that it expects traffic to "settle", I think there's some of that going on.  However, B & C roads have acted as an escape valve for growing traffic over the last decade, and in many areas they're being switched off.  Reducing road capacity is part of a strategy to reduce traffic.  And the new escape valves? Residential roads that are nicer and safer to walk / cycle in and new non-vehicle infrastructure.

Ed Saper ● 1970d