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Property in Stile Hall Gardens versus Wellesley

Dear community members, We are looking to move into your beautiful neighborhood. I wanted to request your guidance on below:1. Are there any major differences in SHG / Wellesley lane? We have liked a house in each lane.2. Is the traffic under control after the recent petition (2020) was approved to block traffic?3. On SHG, are loft conversions an easy council approval? I would also like to hear if anyone has done one recently.4. We plan to start a family and we're wondering how are the state versus private school especially for prep/primary. Any pointers?I appreciate your input and it was really nice to see such a sense of community in the forum. Regards,N

Noopur Julka ● 2039d13 Comments

1. Stilehall is 1 row closer to train tracks, so i guess there might be noise that depending on what end/side of the road. Haven't noticed it from Wellesley.  I think the road is a little tighter/narrower on Stilehall, for passing cars. Otherwise i think they're pretty similar. Both roads have a good local network of residents set up, one of the few positives to come from lockdown. 2. The driving force behind the changes to road layout wasn't a petition, but was a result of 2 or 3 detailed consultations of residents and the wider community etc over a period of 3 years or so.  So it was created under a very different process and rules from the much more recent (unconsulted on) LTN schemes that have had plenty of air time on the forum recently. And yes, the roads are both very quiet now, which is great for families etc who live there - noise, pollution, road safety etc.3. It is a conservation area so it might be a bit trickier (has an impact on permitted development rights i think), but we didn't have a problem  making a small change to ours. And if a lot of the other houses around have done it, it's unlikely to be a problem. 4. Don't know personally about Strand on the green school, but have heard good things and it is very easy/quick to get to. There are some decent private prep schools just across kew bridge.

Rob Reynolds ● 2039d

Strand has always been a great school. The current head taught my son when she was a primary teacher there. I think he felt she was the best ever.

Vivienne Cox ● 2039d

“The driving force behind the changes to road layout wasn't a petition, but was a result of 2 or 3 detailed consultations of residents and the wider community etc over a period of 3 years or so.  So it was created under a very different process and rules from the much more recent (unconsulted on) LTN schemes that have had plenty of air time on the forum recently.”And yet OneChiswick and the Conservative Councillors are still campaigning to have them removed. Sam Hearn was negative about them in his blog just last week and wrote to a resident who objected to his words afterwards to tell him “nothing is irreversible”. Stile Hall and Wellesley are the controls that prove their concerns about consultations to be false. They just can’t abide any restrictions on driving anywhere no matter what process is followed.Very good to see quiet streets attracting new residents to the area. And don’t worry these changes won’t be reversed. The streets will stay quiet.

Paul Campbell ● 2038d

Noopur,On traffic, there will be a bit more on Stile Hall than Wellesley as there is access from the S Circular to Stile Hall but Wellesley is completely closed to motor traffic.The traffic on Stile Hall is still minimal however and measurements done by the council last September showed a peak of 15 vehicles per hour compared to the previous 240 vehicles per hour. Vehicle speeds dropped considerably as well and the average is now well under the speed limit while previously, it was above.SHG residents did petition the council to block the road to through traffic back in 2016 and this led to a consultation then. The two subsequent consultations were done as part of Cycleway 9 and the closure agreed prior to COVID. Stile Hall is in a conservation area so that will affect some types of works but I know some people have done loft conversations.As mentioned Stile Hall will get some noise from the railway particularly on the south side. It’s one of the things you get used to.

Michael Robinson ● 2038d

Vivienne - <3 Thank you so much ! :)

Noopur Julka ● 2038d

Thank you Rob - This is quite helpful! On #2 - hope this is an irreversible change?Thank you for letting me know SHG falls under conservation area. Is there any place where I can read up more about how it impacts houses in the area?Thank you again!

Noopur Julka ● 2038d

Paul - Thank you! That is great to know. I wonder how the house prices have been impacted post these changes?

Noopur Julka ● 2038d

Michael - Thank you! This is helpful. The statistics speak volumes about the efforts this community has taken to lead a positive outcome!I am a bit concerned on the noise as the house I am considering is on south side. :(

Noopur Julka ● 2038d

Meanwhile, I just wanted to check if someone would be open for a phone call? If it is too much of an ask, I completely understand. I can provide some public links about myself to ensure you don't feel it is a spam. Regardless, Many thanks for all the inputs! :)

Noopur Julka ● 2038d

Do you realize theirs a new football stadium adjacent to both the road roads you mention

Bernard Allen ● 2038d

Bernard - No! I did not. Thank YOU for the input. I can't describe how valuable these inputs are especially when one is planning a lifetime home purchase!

Noopur Julka ● 2038d

Noopur,The changes at the end of Stile Hall and Wellesley were implemented using a permanent traffic order and the junctions have been rebuilt.There is no realistic prospect of this changing as it would mean going through yet another consultation and there would be a lot of resident opposition to through traffic, as there were in previous consultations.  The junctions would need to be rebuilt again, and TfL aren't going to spend money reversing what they have just done.On noise from the railway, personally speaking, its something that just doesn't register with me anymore for the normal passenger services.  I do notice if it is something a bit different, such as the occasional freight service and in the summer they have had tourist steam trains and they sound different!Its just a trade-off as the area does have good transport connections with proximity to both Kew Bridge and Gunnersbury stations and the new cycle path at the end of the road.

Michael Robinson ● 2038d

And check on the property prices re changes.

Janice Evans ● 2038d