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I see pedestrians (and dogs) when I cycle it.  If I'm on my road bike at a decent speed, I definitely feel safer on the road there - especially as you avoid the possibility of getting left hooked at Rivercourt Road.This time of year, all of those paths aren't likely to be gritted either.  Another reason why the road is safer if you can keep up a decent speed.The problem comes for those you can't do that kind of speed.  It's very different at 6 to 8mph than at 18 to 20mph.  That's where you need these lanes.What people forget is that cyclists aren't all the same. If you commute into town regularly, you will get fit, and you can cruise at around 20mph without any problems.  At that kind of speed, a shared use path is just not safe, and the cars are a lot less scary.  There is a bigger difference in speed between a cyclist doing 20mph and a cyclist doing 6mph, than between the 20mph cyclist and a car doing 30mph.Cars are predictable.  They can't suddenly hop sideways.  I've cycled more than 30,000 miles in London, and my only trip to A&E was caused by a pedestrian who stepped out in front of me from behind another pedestrian.  I've had pedestrians step out in front of me hundreds of times.  I've been doored 4 times.  The first time I was doored, I was travelling quite quickly, and I actually ended up going over the top of the car door.  In all that time, I've had one minor low speed incident with a moving car.The A4 is far better than the High Road as there are a lot less pedestrians, and it removes the risk of being doored.  There are also far less junctions, which is where the most risk is.  It does need a dedicated lane though.  The shared use path isn't safe at decent speeds.Even with the lane on the High Road now, the A4 is still least bad option.  Even going more slowly on the shared use path, it's still quicker than the High Road, as there are so many less junctions and lights.East of Hogarth Roundabout, there would be space for a dedicated lane.  The verges are quite wide - especially on the North side, and the central reservation is wide.  If you narrowed the central reservation, you could make quite a lot of space.West of Hogarth, you would have to remove a traffic lane, but it goes into 2 lanes anyway for the eleveated section of the A4.  You get big queues there where the 3 lanes go into 2 lanes.  If you made it 2 lanes from the Hogarth roundabout, you would lose very little capacity.  It might make things flow more smoothly as the traffic wouldn't be trying to merge.  That was the whole idea of Prescott's M4 bus lane.  You could make the left hand lane coming to Hogarth Westbound a filter lane for the A316, and just have 2 lanes after the roundabout.

Al Webber ● 2078d

I was on CS9 on Friday evening (busiest) and Saturday afternoon - it has got noticeably busier since launch.The Kew Bridge end of CS9 was empty when it first started appearing, and got much busier after a few months during the school runs.As a proportion of overall traffic - it is still miniscule as Paul says, but it will grow.  It was the 90 minute car roundtrip from Gunnersbury to Chiswick Homefields and back on a Friday evening that eventually got me on a borrowed bike....eventually teaching my kids to ride a bike....eventually buying them bikes.....that took 3+ years to shift my behaviour. To Paul's point about the elephant - Chiswick High Road (and Turnham Green Terrace) were already frequently gridlocked pre pandemic.  The debate we're having boils down to how we solve traffic congestion - either we reserve all the road space for cars, or we try and reduce the number of cars.Both are what I'd call "hopeful" positions.  Giving all the roadspace to cars hasn't worked in the past - but let's hope it works in the future, or at least doesn't get any worse.Taking roadspace from cars and giving it to bikes in the hope that people will cycle more and drive less....also hopeful! Short of driving a motorway through the heart of Chiswick (and we already tried that with the A4), I'm more in the camp of reducing cars, but I get Paul's position, and he's likely not wrong in that there will be more congestion in the short term at least.Chiswick High Road has been around a lot longer than the car - and it is a lovely place to eat, shop and hang out, despite cars, not because of them.  I don't mind cars being the dominant form of transport but we have plenty of examples of cities that have shifted the balance a bit towards other less space hogging and polluting transport and people (eventually) came to see it as progress.

Ed Saper ● 2074d

To Ed's earlier post, which Tony described as 'good'. Interestingly I don't disagree with much of what he says, We all want less congestion, cleaner air and easier travel and safer streets. But this is just the normal high level platitudes, The specific question is whether this CS9 delivers this. I believe no for the following reasons:* Buses are the big losers. Buses are great and accessible to all. Bus speeds have fallen for years and the impending gridlock around the High Road will make this even worse* Displaced traffic: to build CS9 on the cheap, TFL are intentionally diverting traffic onto residential roads and creating queues and congestion. This is not acceptable and creates new dangers and pollution. This is not OK* The displaced traffic also makes other popular cycling and pedestrian routes more dangerous, such as up Sutton Lane to Acton Lane and beyond. * Through traffic: the regular argument is 'traffic was always bad'. No, at times it was terrible, but it was not always bad. The High Road flowed pretty well most times, but evenings and weekends it could be bad, especially when problems on the A4 or local football matches. When we return to normal, all this traffic will be back. Google maps will continue to direct people through W4 until it is so congested that alternatives are quicker.* Traffic evaporation, we have 20 years of data and our own observations locally to know this does not happen. If it did, we would not be having these discussions now. Unless we can agree on the current realities and challenges, there is no room for constructive engagement.As for usage, I do hope that usage increases over time, as at the moment its very low. I have yet to see more people on it than could fit into a single decker bus. I fear that when traffic returns, the congestion at either end of the High Road, such as the non-segregated stretch on Heathfield/ Wellesley, will deter many. We need holistic solutions that work for all. I don't know where Ed lives but the other vocal proponents do not suffer any of these issues of displacement, nor use buses, nor run a business that needs deliveries or to visit local customers.

Paul Green ● 2074d