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Steve Donnelly raises an important point, but he is quite wrong to say he has been ignored. The issue is whether bi-directional cycle lanes can offer improved safety compared to no provision at all.There is a huge amount of data on this from the Netherlands, and the answer is that it depends on the amount of traffic on the main route of the cycle lane compared to that on the unsignalled side roads crossing the cycle lanes, and the treatment of the crossing at the side roads that draws the attention to car drivers to a collision threat.The Dutch data was conclusive that overall safety should be significantly improved by a factor of two with the original design of CS9. Professor Paul Schepers, the pre-eminent expert in the Netherlands, and Rachel Eldred Professor of Transport at the University of Westminster, both endorsed this analysis and the councillors and transport officers at Hounslow were briefed on that basis. Steve remained unpersuaded, but his view is not supported by the experts in the field.However, the important issue is now how far the temporary design can reproduce the safety features of the original scheme, which had raised platforms at the unsignalled intersections to give prominence to the cyclists. The wands will certainly help as they're more visually prominent than the raised kerb of the original design.I'm sure TfL will be paying particular attention to this known issue, and there are further ways to mitigate the risk including putting in more wands so that cars can't just sweep in and out of side roads and cyclists are alerted. There is more scope in the current scheme for such adjustments than in the original design. If safety is not improved, as seen in a lower accident rate, then of course there is no point in the infrastructure and that should become apparent during the trial period.

Tom Pike ● 2203d

Tom,A number of points I have to disagree with in your post:"The Dutch data was conclusive that overall safety should be significantly improved by a factor of two with the original design of CS9" Er, how was Dutch data conclusive on CS9 in Chiswick? They are very different contexts. Neither TfL or Hounslow Council have carried out a proper safety study of CS9, so it's impossible to conclude anything for certain. Curious that your Dutch expert apparently came to the opposite conclusion to my Dutch expert, who thought CS9 was illogical from a safety perspective. It's strange that both experts produce the same CROW Design Manual that warns against two-ways tracks on streets such as the High Road.To my knowledge Professor Rachel Eldred is an expert in cycling policy but not in cycle infrastructure design.You say "the important issue is now how far the temporary design can reproduce the safety features of the original scheme, which had raised platforms at the unsignalled intersections" Well this is quite clear - the temporary scheme does not include this important safety measure and cannot be safely adapted to do so.You say "I'm sure TfL will be paying particular attention to this well known issue". Well they haven't - they've omitted the safety features from the design. I'm not even sure they do understand the issue - they wrote to me last year advising they do not believe two-way cycle tracks are any more dangerous than one-way tracks, which the Dutch expert found extremely naive, advising they are always more dangerous because apart from the side road junction issue, there are more head-on collisions, single bicycle injuries and more collisions between cyclists and pedestrians who forget to look both ways when crossing the track.I also disagree with your view that the temporary design offers more scope for safety modifications - if there is why haven't they been incorporated?The key problem is the two-way track design introduces new known high-risk factors and does very little to mitigate against them. There is every possibility that this scheme will cause more injuries than it will prevent.I advise cyclists to avoid using this track when heading eastbound (towards Hammersmith) and if using it, to take extreme care at side road junctions. Please do not be fooled into thinking it is safe just because it is separated from motor traffic for most of its length. Extensive experience in other northern European countries has shown this is not the case.

Stephen Donnelly ● 2203d

Having just driven down CHR (after dropping off elderly & disabled neighbour at doctors) I can't get over the feeling of how sad it is that the road is now a miserable depressing and dangerous place.CHR is now too narrow. Buses are crossing lanes and one nearly took my wing mirror off. Traffic is more congested & moving slower (so TFL have hit their KPI's). What was a busy but moving road is now a congested, polluted and dangerous road ( and I don't see it changing when the CS9 opens). It's a question of time before an accident.But what makes me even sadder is that such a positive opportunity has been squandered. I totally support segregated cycleways but bidirectional ones are dangerous - for both cyclists and pedestrians. Having commuted into central London by bike for many years the things that scared me most were: buses; slow moving traffic(because drivers are apt to do unpredictable things in slow moving traffic), and other cyclists. When they started to introduce the segregated lanes it was great. Slow cyclists, like myself, could amble along without fear. The crazy cyclists continued use the road because it was faster and it was great. But when they started the bidirectional ones - the crazy cyclists returned. Because now they had space to overtake - into the path of other cyclists.This is what will happen on CHR. Pedestrians and normal cyclists look out. These dangerous crazies will not stop at crossings, will not obey speed limits and there will be nasty accidents. And even if it's not the speed merchants - how are you going to keep a 6 year old cycling on the left?The problem with bi-directional is particularly bad on straight fast sections like CHR. What they have done by Kew Bridge for instance is good (in my opinion) because this is an major intersection where you will have to stop and slow so there is less danger.

Richard Potts ● 2202d

I was just explaining how a floating island bus stop is supposed to work and how I understand this one will be marked up. What will in fact happen here we can only speculate about and wait and see. My personal feeling is that this temporary two-way facility on the south side of CHR is doomed to fail. To start with, it's on the 'wrong' side of the road to provide convenient access to most of the attractions of CHR. Two-way facilities are not generally recommended anyway as they create additional complexity for cyclists and confusion for other road users, unless they're designed to a high standard throughout their length. Yet this one appears to have so many compromised design features and inadequately resolved features that it's unlikely to provide the service and protection for cyclists that it purports to promise.As others have suggested, cycle access to the new facility from cycle friendly streets on the north side of CHR, such as Fishers Lane, Windmill and TGT itself is either difficult or impossible, with other streets being similarly affected if the two-way track were on the other side of CHR. The original 'pavement' scheme was at least designed to a higher standard, but this temporary facility is a poor and possibly dangerous substitute. Sadly, the most likely result of this facility will be to increase the present divisions and internecine feuding between the different users of CHR, as 'cyclists aren't even using it' or 'are racing past stationery cars' or worst of all, 'keep using the pavement'!

Peter Evans ● 2201d

Would agree that the A4 is a better route, as I've said many times.The current "shared use" pavements are dreadful though.  You are safer on the road if you are travelling at any speed.  Cars turn into Rivercourt Road without indicating.  Given the continuous stream of cars, that becomes a real menace, as you have to rely on their indicators, or you would never cross it.Add in unpredictable pedestrians and dogs on the pavements, and low tree branches that can hit you in the eye, and the road is definitely safer.  I've cycled over 30k miles in London, and my only trip to A&E was caused by a pedestrian.The lack of pedestrians is a major reason why the A4 is safer.  The fact that there will be many less junctions where you can get left hooked is the other reason.As you say, the A4 route is also a lot faster.  The biggest use of transport in London is still commuting.  If you want to convince people to get on their bikes, it helps when it is overwhelmingly quicker than other transport choices.  Making it a lot slower by putting it along the High Road really doesn't help.Having said all that, we need to do something on the High Road as well.  If I do want to cycle somewhere with my daughters, I wouldn't be comfortable taking them on the High Road as it has been.  The "cycle lane" disappears before the zebra crossings, and you are forced to move out into traffic.  It's safer to be in the traffic all the time than to try to force your way into it.  Some of the painted on "cycle lane" is also right in the door zone of parked cars.  Again, it's safer to stay out in the traffic, but most aren't confident to do that.What they are doing now is less bad than doing nothing.  I think a lane on each side in the direction of traffic would be marginally better, but that would bring more junctions into play, and more pedestrians not looking where they are going, so the bi-directional lane might not be as bad as it looks at first sight.

Al Webber ● 2197d

Yesterday I went to run an errand in Blackheath and decided to cycle there.  The obvious route for my destination was to take the previously dreaded Jamaica Road towards Lewisham.  The danger of this road in the past was on par with Tower Gate road but has since also been transformed with a new and simply fantastic bi-directional cycleway which meant I could connect onto it from CS3 via Tower bridge and straight onto this segregated lane.The inclement weather did not stop other cyclists in different guises (lycra, non-lycra) go out yesterday and with the exception of one fool all were using the cycle way which was lovely to see.  My stance on the obligatory use of cycleways on major roads such as Embankment and Jamaica road remains the same,  where available this must be used. Similar approaches are used on the continent. I would urge those who understandably question these type of cycleways to see if they are able to try them or at least observe their use before casting judgement.  Observe the difference in safety of the segregated cycleway on Jamaica road and the non-segregated paint only lane further down on the A200 and A206 towards Greenwich. I am a reasonably experienced as an urban cyclist and this infra has made an enormous difference both in terms of physical safety as well as mental stress of being separated from the traffic and all that comes with it such as  close passes etc.  I can only imagine the difference it has made to those less experienced or just starting out.

Matthew Swain ● 2196d

Michael,You wrote:  “Your claims about cycle casualties involved nothing more than looking at dots on a map and guessing. A proper analysis using source police collision reports showed just how wildly inaccurate your guesses were.”I produced a simplistic amateur assessment to raise awareness of the safety problems with two-way cycle tracks, which seemed little known by many people promoting CS9. I made it clear it was a simplistic assessment and that the authorities should produce a professional quantitative risk assessment, which they still have not done.Your analysis included some helpful further analysis of police collision data, but was also an amateur assessment with very selective use of data and overly optimistic assumptions:- Data from a single Dutch study, assuming Dutch conditions were directly transferable to Chiswick. The Netherlands are a special case, showing much better results than other countries: their extra risk factor for junctions on two-way tracks over one-way tracks is around 1.75. Studies in Sweden and Finland, where cycling levels are lower and closer to UK levels, show risk factors of 10 and 12, which explains why they largely stopped using two-way tracks over 20 years ago. The Dutch study states Dutch figures are unlikely to be transferable to other countries. In my assessment I used a mean average from several countries.- Your study used a risk factor that assumed the cycle track was set back 2-5 metres at every side road junction – at most junctions it was not and a significantly higher risk factor should have been used. Let alone now that there are no set backs or raised platforms.- Your conclusion that CS9 would reduce cyclist injuries by 75% doesn’t pass a sense check. The most successful road safety measure in recent decades were 20 mph Zones (with traffic calming) which reduced injuries by up to 70%. It is highly improbable then that a measure that is known to be dangerous and warned against in all design guidance such as two-way tracks could produce a better result! One-way tracks are known to be significantly safer, so what would you expect those to produce – 100%?! Too good to be true I’m afraid.- Your study only considered the side roads issue and not all the other (non-junction) factors and pedestrian collision data that lead to two-way tracks not being recommended on streets such as the High Road.- European studies also warn against relying only on police collision data for studies of cycling safety. Studies that also include hospital admission data show the majority of cyclist injuries are not reported to the police. This is particularly applicable to bicycle-bicycle and single bicycle collisions that increase with two-way tracks. So I have to disagree with your claim that this was somehow a “proper” and conclusive study, and that my simplistic assessment led to “wildly inaccurate guesses”. In fact if you include the factors listed above, my estimate of three to four times current collision levels is about right.You wrote: “You also opposed the cycle lane on Boston Manor Rd which has been in operation for about 18 months now…. Your prophesies of doom about cyclist casualties there simply haven’t happened.”My opposition here wasn’t so much on safety grounds as that is was a wasted opportunity to introduce something that could not be extended beyond this half mile stretch of road. Ealing Council said they would not extend the route on their section of the road as a two-way track, so there was little prospect of this being more than an isolated link of little use to anyone other than GSK staff going half a mile to Boston Manor tube.It’s worth remembering that significant increases in people cycling occur where NETWORKS of cycle routes are introduced. Isolated lengths of cycle route rarely make much difference.And at Boston Manor there were only two side road junctions, which Hounslow Council agreed to re-design to be safer. Having said that, when I last looked at the police collision data, the cyclist injuries had moved from the road junctions to the side road junctions on the cycle track. The number of injuries had increased significantly over the previous three years before the track was built. So again, not a great advert for the safety benefits of two-way tracks, even where there are few side roads.I hope Hounslow Cycling will be warning local cyclists of the dangers of two-way cycle tracks on roads such as the High Road, which are not obviously apparent? Probably safer to avoid using CW9 eastbound, although the narrowed traffic lanes now make the road quite unpleasant too!

Stephen Donnelly ● 2195d

Stephen,You are being somewhat economical with the truth.  Your “simplistic” analysis was so inaccurate that it was highly misleading.  I don’t recall you saying it was “simplistic” when you bombarded Hounslow councillors with emails and presented to the cabinet meeting. I can check the recording if you like.We looked at police reports of every single cyclist collision on Chiswick High Rd and King St since 2005. This covered the entire road not just junctions.  Amongst other things, this analyst showed the high proportion of casualties caused by doorings. Something that you had ignored.I also don’t recall you mentioning that you opposed Boston Manor Rd because of Ealing’s position. It was all about the design. As I said, your claims about safety don’t appear to have materialised in the 18 months since the track has been in operation.If you didn’t want it to be build because of Ealing this was also very short sighted.  Ealing has developed plans to extend the track northwards and the Hounslow plan is to extend southwards to link up with CW9 in Brentford. A network needs to start somewhere. It won’t be built all at once. Obviously all borough plans are up in the air at the moment.I’ll certainly be using the track along CHR when it is completed. It will be far safer going on the cycle lane than, for example, the lane changing and left hook risk going eastbound towards Goldhawk Rd.It’s also been great to see the short section of track by Kew Bridge is being heavily used.  Yesterday I saw Lycra types, families with babies on cycle seats, older folk all using the lanes and crossing.You opposed that too. In fact I’m struggling to think of anything you have ever supported.

Michael Robinson ● 2195d

Matthew,I think this is actually the problem with many bidirectional cycle tracks, they look and feel very safe, but particularly where there are several side road junctions, they cause far more cyclist injuries than they prevent.I'm not saying they are never the answer, on dual carriageways and riverside roads they can be reasonably safe, but they should only be implemented very selectively, where they will actually address safety issues, and not just because it would be nice to have segregated cycleways.This has been the experience of several north European countries over the past 40 years. Most stopped using bidirectional cycleways in the 1990s (except in certain circumstances) when it became clear that the safety problems were insurmountable.There have been a few previous bidirectional attempts in London, mainly in Camden in the late 1990s. A few years later they were removed after some very nasty injuries at side road junctions. Cable Street in Tower Hamlets is the only location I can think of that has lasted more than a few years - presumably because it is a narrow traffic calmed back street with one-way traffic, no parking and the parallel main road routes are truly awful for cyclists.The problem is it takes a few years for the collision numbers and patterns to become apparent. Sometimes ineffectual mitigation measures are added (Camden added railway level crossing style red flashing lights on Royal College Street) which only prolongs the pattern of injuries and the finding of a better solution.All of this could so easily be avoided if transport planners simply followed the design guidance, which contains all these warnings.

Stephen Donnelly ● 2194d