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Sinking ship.

So, one of the UK’s richest individuals, Sir Jim Radcliffe, a Brexit supporter to his boots, is moving to Monaco. Such faith in the UK.Also a huge increase in applications from very rich people to buy citizenship in Cyprus.What do you think they might know that we don’t?

Stewart Jones ● 2225d38 Comments

Ratcliffe, oops. Ratcliffe leaving a sinking ship...

Stewart Jones ● 2225d

Another cheery post from Stewart.

Claire Moran ● 2225d

> What do you think they might know that we don’t?Starmer getting in - Boris has lost his mojo, so they’re hedging their bets against it getting even worse.

Russell Pearson ● 2225d

The clues are there....

Stewart Jones ● 2225d

Two of leading Brexiter businessmen have gone, Radclife (he actually moved a while ago) to Monaco and Dyson to Singapore. Beyond the Brexit betrayal its disgusting how the very rich seem to feel paying tax is for little people

Paul Green ● 2225d

I can see another W4 Conspiracy Theory thread coming along. All we need now is someone to mention the New World Order...and owls.

Russell Pearson ● 2225d

Just asking a question Claire, on a public forum. Perhaps you'd like to have a go at answering the question.

Stewart Jones ● 2225d

> Just asking a question Claire, on a public forum. Perhaps you'd like to have a go at answering the question.Could it be ‘Skull & Bones’? 😹

Russell Pearson ● 2225d

Why leave?There was an article in the Times today and on the BBC quoting the FinCenn files - The UK is called a "higher risk jurisdiction" and compared to Cyprus, by the intelligence division of FinCEN. That's because of the number of UK registered companies that appear in the SARs. Over 3,000 UK companies are named in the FinCEN files - more than any other country.'London is the money laundering capital of the world,same as it ever was.https://www.icij.org/investigations/fincen-files/

Ben Gemmingen ● 2225d

It became official this week. Just after his knighthood for services to business.

Stewart Jones ● 2225d

Good to know that at least we are 'World Leading' (©Boris Johnson) in something.

Ken Munn ● 2225d

And Dyson, maker of rubbish vacuum cleaners and ardent Brexiter is one of the biggest recipients of EU subsidies for his farming company. It's easy to bang your drum and shout about the EU when you're a billionaire with no morales.

Basil Finnis ● 2225d

It's easy, they're doing as this type of person always does - looking after No.1. Incidentally it is reported to-day that Dominic Cummings's family have had some nice little earners from the EU too. Sheer bloody hypocrisy.

Vanessa Smith ● 2225d

It is Claire, shows them up no end.

Janice Evans ● 2225d

She won't answer, because she can't.Insults is all she has left.

Chris Davies ● 2224d

"What do you think they might know that we don’t?"Nothing. They know after the Brexit vote that the majority are thick and they know that our youth don't give a toss about Covid-19 and are refusing to social distance and going en-mass to the off licence after the pubs have closed at 10pm and they know that our police have lost control and they know that all discipline in schools has gone and that the children rule the roost and can speak to teachers however they please, with the full backing of their parents. They also know that Boris and Hancock and Gove and Raab and most of the other front benchers are totally incompetent.  Why on earth would they want to remain here if they have the money to live like Kings or Queens elsewhere? Middle Eastern billionaires are buying up the Seychelles and other nice Islands around the world. Why wouldn't our UK billionaires jump on the bandwagon? 

Steve Taylor ● 2224d

Poor old Steve, such a bad loser. You voted the wrong way - you should have gone to Specsavers. You've now reached the stage where you have no more toys to throw out of your pram, or have you still got a few left over? Please explain why the 'majority are thick', (another of your puerile, stupid comments), and the benefits of being shackled to the EU are so inviting? Many on this forum wait with baited breath for your succinct analysis. You'd jump on the bandwagon yourself - if only you knew what a bandwagon was, and how to jump.

Brian Coyle ● 2224d

Being taken back to not just Victorian times but mediaeval times here might be a little uncomfortable to live in?

Philippa Bond ● 2224d

"Being taken back to not just Victorian times but mediaeval times here might be a little uncomfortable to live in?"Isn't that Extinction Rebellion's plan ?

Richard Greenhough ● 2224d

"...its disgusting how the very rich seem to feel paying tax is for little people"Just following the example of DumbAss Donald, if today's reports are to be believed. Now remind me, how many people voted him into the White House ?

Richard Greenhough ● 2224d

At least Phillipa would not have any pesky cars to annoy her?

Paul Fisher ● 2224d

Although I am normally a resident of Portofino for part of the year, I still pay some taxes in the UK. Unfortunately the Covid has kept me in the UK for the summer, and so I suppose I'll be paying a whole lot more tax this year - all for the privilege of subsidising greedy gluttons to Eat Out And Help Out.

Roger Talbot ● 2224d

"all for the privilege of subsidising greedy gluttons" And so you should. Covid should not deter us from maintaining our status as a nation of fatties.

Steve Taylor ● 2224d

sorry Brain Coil, sorry i can't get my predictive text thing to stop calling you that. Moving on, here are a few fact you may want to consider, JP Morgan, big, infact very big US bank whose European Headquarters is currently in the UK, for how much longer is another debate, but they have moved 200 of their big hitters and £184 BILLION of assets over to Germany.Deutsche Bank, Goldman Sachs,HSBC and Citi have already moved parts of their business out of the United Kingdom. Dublin, Luxembourg, Frankfurt and Paris were the most popular destinations. EY said financial companies were likely to move more assets and create more jobs in other European cities over the coming weeks.The guys being moved are the big players who have other local staff like nannies, secretaries, drivers, gardeners etc who will no longer have a job and HMRC will not be getting their taxes through PAYE.So where are all these trade deals we were promised? From what I am hearing, the one thing is certain, the ship Britannia is sinking and the officers are jumping.

James Smith-Jones ● 2224d

I am trying to think of a successful nation with trade deals in place only with countries thousands of miles away. It is for good reason that geographic proximity counts for so much in enabling international trade. It is a pity that our government does not understand that. Or they do know this but decide to continue to blag a claim that it will all be ok without a trade agreement with the EU. Fortunately for them there are plenty of gullible citizens who buy the notion that the UK does not need a trade agreement with the EU.

Alan Clark ● 2224d

Have you wondered why other posters have not responded to my post, Steve?It's because not being morons they knew it was a load of ludicrous old tosh just waiting for you to come along to amuse us all.Pip pip.

Roger Talbot ● 2223d

Why not go to Cyprus?  The whole of Cyprus is EU Territory, despite nearly half of it (37%) being occupied by an invading army, since 1974,  and the EU has done nothing about that except the usual windbag stuff, like declaring it illegal.Of course the Turkish Army is the second biggest in NATO, (after U.S.A), so the EU (used to include us, but after Brexit no longer so)  would probably get a bloody nose if they tried to do anything about it, and in any case their friends across the Atlantic wouldn't like it.Its all a bit like the situation that faced Maggie, but she wasn't called the Iron Lady for nothing, and I don't think she would have waited over 40 years to resolve the situation.

James Roy ● 2223d

James, I'm not aware that Mrs T took any action over Cyprus, despite being PM for eleven of the 46 years since Turkey moved in to the North.

Richard Greenhough ● 2223d

Again and again the anti-EU brigade demonstrate the double-think that results in idiocy like Brexit. On the one hand they bemoan the superstate power grab of the EU. This is the power grab that apparently meant the UK couldn’t pass its own laws and destroyed the UK’s sovereignty. This is the superstate that will do away with individual country’s armies. Then at the same time they declaim any lack of action by the EU. Look, this EU is weak and hopeless. They even suggest it should be taking military action. One presumes they mean that the EU should muster an army. Wait. Hang on. Is that the EU army from the overly powerful but also weak EU that they don’t want?Please explain. And while you are explaining that could you also explain why the great trade deal that will be so easy to get isn’t.

Alan Clark ● 2223d

U.K. Tries to Unblock Brexit Talks With New State Aid ProposalsBrussels rebuffs British move, saying plans are insufficientTalks unlikely to head into so-called tunnel at end of week The U.K. sought to unblock stalled trade negotiations with the European Union by submitting a new round of proposals on how its state aid rules will work after Brexit, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.But London’s offer still doesn’t go far enough, according to a diplomat in Brussels, who said insufficient progress has been made for the talks to head into the intense phase -- known as a tunnel -- at the end of the week.EU diplomats were briefed on the proposals by the Commission on Monday. According to one, the EU’s executive arm told them the U.K.’s latest paper on state aid marks only a slight improvement from earlier drafts.Time is fast running out for the two sides to reach an agreement in time for a summit of EU leaders that begins on Oct. 15 -- Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s self-imposed deadline for a deal.If an accord isn’t in sight by then, Britain would be all but certain to crash out of the EU’s single market at the year-end without a trade deal in place, potentially poisoning relations with the bloc for a generation and submitting business to the cost and disruption of trade tariffs and quotas.The document is among five confidential draft legal texts the U.K. submitted to the bloc as the two sides’ chief negotiators hold their final scheduled round of discussions in Brussels this week. The others included texts on fisheries, law enforcement, energy and mobility and social security coordination

James Smith-Jones ● 2223d

"Pip pip."Oh dear, oh dear. My post has gone totally over your head hasn't it Roger!  Tut tut. Never mind. It must indeed be difficult being you.

Steve Taylor ● 2222d

The three Guarantor powers under the 1960 Treaty were Greece, Turkey and the UK. The Greek colonels violated the treaty by sponsoring a coup in Cyprus. Turkey had the right to intervene to restore the 'status quo'.  It did a lot more than that and the UK did nothing.  Shameful and nothing to do with the then nine-state European Community.

David McLoughlin ● 2222d

"...the UK did nothing"Harold Wilson's Labour minority government in the summer of 1974 were probably more concerned with getting a majority in the upcoming General Election.Cyprus was allowed to join the EU in 2004, even though the Greek Cypriots had just rejected the Annan Plan to solve the island's division. There doesn't seem to have been much progress since.

Richard Greenhough ● 2222d

Hornets and the Clark/Taylor bipartite forum.So easy to get a rise.

James Roy ● 2220d

Cheerie Stewart on form again.

Claire Moran ● 2220d

Thank you for some accurate information. Whoever shouted that it was all the EU’s fault should apologise.

Alan Clark ● 2220d

Great post! You completely ignore the issue being discussed and focus on the individuals. What added value. Sorry. I meant ad hominem

Alan Clark ● 2220d

You’ve already said that once on this thread. Not getting enough attention?

Stewart Jones ● 2220d