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Gails open why?

There was a queue outside Gails on CHR. I don't understand why its open at all, all there food is normally out in the open. CHR was also disappointingly busy as I cycled through with my daughter on our exercise hour but staggering that Gails could be open. Perhaps there is a good reason, I just don't know what it could possibly be.

Tony Mansell ● 2416d59 Comments

££

Georgina Flint ● 2415d

People needing bread?

Susan Kelly ● 2415d

Um, food shop? Every loaf bought there means one less the supermarkets need to supply and at the moment we need all the various food supply chains we have.

Chris Jenkins ● 2415d

CHR disappointingly busy? Probably because people were cycling along it!

Carl Wynne ● 2415d

It's a food shop, innit.

Ken Munn ● 2415d

Amazingly, the works the extend the Arts Educational School in Bath Road have been busy all day too.  The workers will be using public transport to attend the site, thereby putting genune Key Workers at risk.  Building an extension to an arts education facility is hardly akin to working on a new hospital.  The contractors and their clients should know better.

Alison Foy ● 2415d

No all walking actually Wynne, barely a cyclist. But thanks for your really important input. Stay daft.

Tony Mansell ● 2415d

Its a coffee shop and café, that sells bread. It was the only non supermarket all the way from CHR to Hammersmith. I guess unwrapped bread is more important than killing people.

Tony Mansell ● 2415d

It’s businesses and shoppers like these that are ruining it for everyone else. We will be in total lockdown unless people obey to the new rules. NHS staff are overwhelmed and utterly deflated. GO HOME

Georgina Flint ● 2415d

It's hardly my fault if your self aware button is set at "off"

Carl Wynne ● 2415d

Businesses that can continue to trade which come under thisLocal fresh food suppliers like butchers, fishmongers and (bakeries)Allso... Hot food takeaways - over the counter services only and not allowing an option to eat inGrocery markets – not including farmers markets, hot food markets or street food marketsSupermarkets (excluding any cafes within them), convenience stores and corner shops

Julian Pavey ● 2415d

Unfortunately there appears to be too many inconsiderate people in Chiswick. I limit my going to only walking the dogs and I've cut that down to twice instead of four times a day. Just looked out of my window to see an orderly queue with social distancing outside of Boots, along come 2 men jogging with very little space between them  but what was worse was the chap on the inside of the pavement was less than 1ft from the queue of people. It's idiots like this who will put us all into total lockdown - heaven help us all 🙏

Loraine Pemberton ● 2415d

The guy who is head of the police federation said yesterday that without saying so that the GVMT will already have plans in place for the Army to support the police in having a presence to show or remind people that the guidelines must be followed. And where its needed to make people aware of those guidelines and move or disperse people if needed. That would most likely be the next step rather than inputting even harder measures in place. If he is saying that,i take it he knows what is in place without saying to much.

Julian Pavey ● 2415d

Sorry Loraine but are we not only allowed out once a day for exercise however we choose to do this? Maybe I am wrong.

Helen Whitman ● 2415d

some people are very happy to condemn it seems, while overlooking their own actions.I see someone asking to buy flour from a similar business to Gails who has been very critical of them on a separate thread as well.

Chris Jenkins ● 2415d

got to laugh at folk.So cyclists don't carry the virus then!

James Smith-Jones ● 2415d

Supermarkets are overwhelmed so keeping off licences and bakeries open should take some pressure off them

Jayne Thorburn ● 2415d

I could maybe pay over the phone and David could leave it outside. We wouldn’t need to have any contact. David has said on this site that he’s very aware of social distancing. Gail’s have not.

Georgina Flint ● 2415d

JamesSilly you, of course they don't - dont you know they're perfect ? 🤣

Loraine Pemberton ● 2415d

HelenDo you have a garden for your 2 dogs ?

Loraine Pemberton ● 2415d

I was merely trying to clarify the situation.

Helen Whitman ● 2415d

One of my sons who is working from home decided to go to Sainsburys in Walton whilst his wife and daughter were having a maths session.“A bizarre shopping experience. We had to stand in a queue 2 metres apart to get in. Inside it was like a library.”“So did you actually pick up any shopping?”“Well yes but not all I’d hoped for.”

Rima Jones ● 2415d

If every dog walker took it upon themselves to walk their dog(s) where would we be be?Dogs are very adaptable. Do not use a dog as an excuse to go out when it is not necessary. I have seen numerous dog-walkers out a few times each day on Acton Green- sitting on the benches, chatting to people whilst their dogs play. Doesn't seem necessary to me.Dogs can be stimulated indoors- consider teaching them new tricks, obedience work, sniff work.Above all, each time you leave the house, think IS THIS NECESSARY?[Do not assume you are taking enough precautions]

Will Griggs ● 2415d

Hi HelenYes,I do know what the advice is,  unfortunately I don't have a garden,  as you know my 2 JR's are not only lively but also need more than 1 comfort break each day. I have no choice but 2 take them out twice a day which is a 50% reduction in their usual routine, it would be cruel not to. Our first walk is very early when few people are about, and I do stringently observe the 2m rule. I hope this clarifies the situation  for you.Best wishes Loraine

Loraine Pemberton ● 2415d

Well I'm encouraged.I mean, we managed to get as far as 4 on-topic replies before a member of the anti-cycling brigade intervened to hijack it.Meanwhile, if Gails is to open on the basis that it's a food shop, they should at least be made to operate proper safe-distancing, or be told to close if they can't/won't.

Richard Cathcart ● 2415d

... oh for gawd's sake..this thread's bringing out the worst in far too many fruitcakes..leave the dogs alone! And the bread shops!  And the off-licenses come to that....

Stuart Kerr ● 2415d

Yes you're right. Let's slacken the rules. It seems like the NHS are over the worst of it now.The new hospital at the ExCel is probably a made up rumour anyway.

Will Griggs ● 2415d

🐾 dogs need more than one walk if no garden available to them.

Janice Evans ● 2415d

Do they?For 3 weeks you think dogs could not survive without one walk per day to protect our NHS?Be creative, be prepared to clean up accidents. Of course one can assume multiple dog walks are not causing harm but that is only assuming everything goes to plan.As an individual, you can take every precaution necessary, however, going out when it is not NECESSARY, increase your change of any number of events:1) Falling and requiring help from others (contact)2) Others not social distancing and coming into contact with you (contact)3) Runners spitting near you (airdrops)4) Unexpectedly meeting someone you know who doesn't social distance (contact)...and so on!

Will Griggs ● 2415d

An early morning and late evening is best to walk the dog if you can.

Janice Evans ● 2415d

Will dear it's not just you.  By a wide margin..But do try not to develop this penchant for going on about the bleedin' obvious...  It's aggravating.  Especially on a forum where the vast majority are very bright and sensibly well tuned-in to what we all must do!Nagging very responsible dog-owners aint the way..

Stuart Kerr ● 2415d

It's a little more than "advice"."Every citizen must comply with these new measures. The relevant authorities, including the police, will be given the powers to enforce them – including through fines and dispersing gatherings."I see nothing specific about dog walking so I assume it falls under the restriction to one piece of exercise per day.

Will Watson ● 2415d

I think we will have to disagree on what is appropriate re: nagging.I do however, wholeheartedly agree the vast majority are aware of what we must do, but that does not mean one should idly allow the actions of others to put the NHS under further strain.As I said- you can be as responsible as you want, but- IT IS AN ABSOLUTE FACT- increasing your contact with the outside world increases the opportunity for others to contract or give you the virus. Thus- leaving the house more than is necessary, is selfish- even if the intentions for leaving are well meaning.

Will Griggs ● 2415d

Janice (and Stuart)Thank you for understanding, just a shame that Will thinks it's perfectly OK for sentient animals should be confined for 24 hours without a comfort break. We do walk early morning and late evening. I'm a responsible, as well as being an 'at risk' woman, due to age and underlying health conditions'. Am I going to risk my or anyone else's health, absolutely not. Am I going to risk my 2 companion Dogs wellbeing, again, absolutely not !People, like Will, should be more concerned with Joggers who tend to run in pairs and barge through people on narrow paths with nothing like 2m between them and the people they're passing.I religiously self impose 'social distancing' just a shame others don't.

Loraine Pemberton ● 2415d

I know bugger all about dogs.  Never owned one..But I'm told by those who do that they're loyal and very intelligent creatures.  Teach your dog not to poo and pee on your carpet and he/she will learn exactly what not to do in order to keep master/mistress happy.So when he goes "woof" nowadays meaning "need an urgent  poo and pee boss" - what's boss supposed to do if boss has already taken said creature out earlier in the day?Tell doggy to cross its bleedin' legs!!!!answers on a postcard....

Stuart Kerr ● 2415d

Will, trust you're not cycling more than once a day, that's  exercise isn't it ?Btw, cheap shot but guess that's cos CW9 is on hold 😉

Loraine Pemberton ● 2415d

I am not cycling more than once a day.I don't know why you think it is a "cheap shot" - if you don't like the rules you should take it up with the powers that be rather than the messenger.

Will Watson ● 2415d

Ha, I no longer have dogs but when I did my Bulldog would not settle at all if he never got his walk and that was with a garden, so I sympathise with Those without a garden.

Janice Evans ● 2415d

Of course you're not. And yes yours was a cheap shot, but hey now't new there.Suspect that Boris hasn't taken into account that 1,000's of the UK's dog owners don't have gardens in these extraordinary times, therefore exceptions should be made pdq.A cyclist makes at least 2 journeys -leaving and returning ! Or will you say that is not the case ?

Loraine Pemberton ● 2415d

One walk a day Even the sensible people of an age are doing multi walks around the block each day to save them from going mad.

Julian Pavey ● 2415d

I'm not getting involved in the doggie debate but by that logic you would be making 4 journeys a day. One leaving, one returning, one leaving, one returning. I think that the government classifies one exit and one reentry to the house as a single trip otherwise we'd all have to sleep rough before coming home.

Paul Campbell ● 2415d

Yes, I heard on the radio the other day that two walks of 15 minutes are fine if that's all you can manage at a time. I don't, therefore, see why this can't apply to dog walkers. You can't expect an animal to be reduced to going out and doing what it needs to do less than twice a day. Could you manage it? (Not referring to last poster.)

Anne England ● 2415d

Give me strength, the Government hasn't made any pronouncement regardinging walking dogs for owners who dont have gardens. You took the bait and didn't disappoint, you Muppet!

Loraine Pemberton ● 2415d

They sell bread. It’s essential. And pretty much a shortage.

Caroline Carrington ● 2415d

Charming indeed. I said I wasn't entering the doggie debate but now I've decided that you are definitely non-complaint and should receive a fine once a day. I shall notify the authorities.

Paul Campbell ● 2415d

The government hasn't made pronouncements on an infinity of situations it doesn't mean you can just arbitrarily declare yourself a special case and ignore the rules.

Will Watson ● 2415d

Can't think why the OP picked on Gail's ... perfectly ordinary bread shop. 

Micki Hawkes ● 2415d

Stuart you are a star, humour wins, I happen to know younger athletic folk going for a cycle or run for 2 hours as their one exercise per day. Lorraine you look after your dogs, having been a dog owner a trained dog would be mortified to do their business in their home. I guess the key is to do it responsibly which clearly you are.

Jayne Thorburn ● 2415d

Cats have litter trays. Why not dogs?

Ken Munn ● 2415d

Lorainne: I will say no more on this subject other than the below- I do hope it makes you re-evaluate your decisions to go against the governments request.1) I never said animals should be confined for 24 hours. I advised dogs are adaptable- one walk per day for 3 weeks should be sufficient- dogs can be stimulated and exercised indoors. Cleaning up accidents should not be too much of a burden in these extraordinary times. 2) You said you will not risk your health or anyone elses because you are "responsible". You must have ignored or did not read what I said about THE RISK FROM OTHERS TO YOU. You cannot prevent, joggers, walkers, children, pet-owners from spreading the virus to you whilst out, whether intentionally or unintentionally.3) I am concerned with joggers, and anyone else who is risking the lives of others by disregarding the advice. I will leave you with what I have said before- IT CANNOT BE CLEARER:The guidelines should be something we try and distance ourselves from as much as possible, i.e. how much can we do to avoid spreading this? Is each trip outside "necessary"?The guidelines should not be viewed as the benchmark or goal to aim for in minimising the inconvenience to our lives!

Will Griggs ● 2415d

" I never said animals should be confined for 24 hours. I advised dogs are adaptable- one walk per day for 3 weeks should be sufficient- dogs can be stimulated and exercised indoors. Cleaning up accidents should not be too much of a burden in these extraordinary times."Unfortunately it's become clear your little knowledge of the genus Canis is limited, as is your comprehension of what I've previously written. It's not about stimulating my 2 JR's it's about the fact that I dont have a garden and they need, yes need, to urinate and defecate twice a day ! Imagine if you were only permitted to urinate once every 12 hours, but hey humans are adaptable so 1 pee every 12 hours for 3 weeks should be sufficient.My dogs are 100% house trained and wouldn't ever consider "doing their business' in the flat. What you're suggesting is also cruel. I live by myself and don't have anyone to share the dog walking with, the majority of dog owners have a partner and they share walking their dog(s) that would be 2 trips per diem. Currently I take them out for a total of 60 minutes a day, so also 2 trips per diem - I trust you understand the maths and logic on this.Joggers currently go out for long runs passing walkers at a very closely, i am acutely observant due to Covid 19 and go out of my way to avoid coming anywhere near other people because I'm extremely vulnerable and I don't wish to be infected or infect anyone.Will, I'm  truly delighted you're saying no more on this subject, but stay healthy and safe, and I do mean that.Kind regards, Loraine

Loraine Pemberton ● 2415d

Will Watson ● 2415d

😅

Janice Evans ● 2415d

Exercise Ken, cats are able to go wander, dogs have to be taken.

Janice Evans ● 2415d

Because some people do not respect or get that this virus can kill people and they are just ignorant.I stay home - I declutter my clothes, I read books, which I wanted to read in ages, I sorted out a photo-album. I created some easter cards, I am backing bread now (''as nature intended has flour), etc etc.

Katja Urban ● 2410d

maybe it's because they sell food?

James Tickell ● 2410d

To sell bread?

Micki Hawkes ● 2410d

Sorry, my WiFi is playing up and only the top message came up.  I thought 'didn't we go through this recently' and posted.  Apologies

Micki Hawkes ● 2410d

Fully understand why Gail's is open, they bake good quality bread with essential vitamins etc. However, not sure why junk / fast food establishments are allowed to be open though.

Loraine Pemberton ● 2409d