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Ah, a fun thread to read on my day off here in seldom-congested Wellington.I could guess the content and thrust of just about all the posts just by reading the posters' names.  No proves for guessing which "side" I support, having been responsible for many of the CHR bus lanes and making little apology for doing so.Even on a weekend, CHR is likely to carry more people by bus than by car.  There seems little to be gained in destroying the reliability of the bus service in these circumstances, thereby "driving" people (NPI) back into their cars.  And the bus lanes, while not pretending to be segregated cycle lanes do provide a level of comfort and encouragement for those who can and are willing to cycle, thus reducing pressure on road space.I do get annoyed when those for whom a disability makes cycling, walking or bus use impossible, use this as an argument for the unfettered right of everyone to expect to use their cars at all times and in all circumstances without the acceptance that the roads simply won't cope.  I don't think the rights of a small number of people with disabilities should outweigh a much much larger number of public transport users to also go about their business - although I do understand the frustrations and everyday challenges faced by those with limited mobility.As for conspiracy theories regrading parking fines and CCTV lane enforcement, I can say that in my time in Hounslow I never let the revenue issue influence my attempts to do what I considered appropriate in helping to plan for special issues such as the Hammersmith flyover closures, although a certain senior officer thankfully no longer with LBH certainly didn't help.  If there is any lack of forward planning, intervention or interagency cooperation nowadays, it's more likely to be simply the outcome of the cost-driven reduction in relevant professional resources within the council, although TfL never seems to be similarly affected.Cheers to allCCF

Chris Calvi-Freeman ● 2892d

Responding to anti-bus rhetoric with anti-car rhetoric might help some people pass the time of day at the expense of their employer but it doesn't really get us anywhere.The points I made about how some selected bus lane suspensions might have significantly helped seemed to have been completely ignored by those who believe that traffic is the fault of people in the traffic and who should therefore be punished for the impertinence of driving at the wrong time.The eastbound stretch of Chiswick High Road to the west of Acton Lane has a bus lane along one side until about 200m before the lights at the junction. The left hand lane then becomes a filter for traffic turning left into Acton Lane. My observations at the weekend were that a significant proportion of the vehicles queueing to get through the lights at this junction wished to turn left but were constrained from doing so because of the bus lane. This caused extra delays for all the traffic in this lane INCLUDING BUSES none of which turn left at this point so are forced to join the queue.It was traffic backing up from this set of lights that seemed to cause most of the delays going back to Chiswick Roundabout. Beyond the lights traffic was relatively light. The tailbacks appear to have interfered with the flow of vehicles off the north circular as well because it was difficult for drivers to get off Chiswick Roundabout onto CHR.A suspension of the bus lane either from Wickes or Halfords would have substantially improved the flow of traffic at this junction. Any extension of journey time for buses by the loss of the short stretch of bus lane would have been outweighed many times over by the reduced delays at the traffic lights.When I was observing this section a small number of vehicles did pull out into the bus lane to join the left hand filter. If there is a camera at this point - which I suspect there will be - they will be fined. Ironically the manoeuvre was one that would have helped reduce bus journey times although I doubt this would be considered during any appeal.Why did Hounslow Council not consider suspending the bus lane at this point? Well, it is certainly not crazy to suggest that on the road in the country that raises the most fines from motorists that they may have been putting revenue considerations before those of road users. They responded with alacrity to the closure of Hammersmith flyover by introducing a range of measures that were highly revenue positive and if anything made the traffic problems worse so it is notable that nothing was done in this instance. Although protection of revenue was probably a factor I'm inclined to think that this had more to do with Hounslow and TfL being unable to come to an agreement about how costs would be shared and therefore doing nothing became the comfortable option. Whatever you believe it seems clear to me that this isn't a situation where the service providers deserve the unequivocal support that some people seem to unthinkingly give them.

Andrew OSullivan ● 2893d

"People who live in the area are the best qualified to assess whether these measures would actually work"On the evidence of this thread that's exactly 100% wrong."either had no choice but to travel on the roads at the time of the closure or didn't know the closure was taking place."So what you're saying is that despite months of notice and widespread communications by TfL the fault is theirs for not ensuring, personally, that everyone with a car in the south east of England was paying attention and by the way it's all Hounslow's fault for being greedy?  Not a very coherent argument, there."suspicion raised elsewhere that Hounslow sees these traffic problems as a revenue opportunity"Oh really? We get enough conspiracy nonsense from Michael Brown, thanks.Facts: - TfL chose to close the bridge at the same time as the District/Overground were cut, for some reason I'd quite like to know (Boat Race and rugby, for my money, but only an FoI or an approach from an MP will tease it out) - There isn't enough capacity on any diversion route if you close one of the west London Thames bridges, no matter what you do you'll get a jam caused by too many cars on the remaining links - Quite a lot of people decided to drive either without realising there was going to be a jam regardless of route or being happy to sit in it or trusting to luck - There were plenty of signs up, but some people still ignored them (mind you 'local traffic only' is open to wide interpretation - 'AVOID CHISWICK' might have been better). - You're not entitled to your own facts in order to fit some narrative about some public body you want to have a go at.  Sorry.

Thomas Barry ● 2893d

I walked south this afternoon (Saturday) from South Parade to Chiswick Bridge via the High Road, Grove Park etc. Then across Chiswick Bridge to Chalker's Corner at Mortlake. Returning back over Chiswick Bridge, along the A316 and then east across the Hogarth Roundabout…taking photos as I walked, including of the signage for westbound traffic heading towards the Hogarth Roundabout. A steady stream of cars ignored the "Road Ahead Closed" / "Strictly Local Access" signs at Hogarth and headed towards Chiswick Bridge. It would appear unlikely all of those vehicles were "local". I assume some simply didn't believe the signs while others saw one car diving down the A136 towards Chiswick Bridge and probably thought the driver in front knew better. But I saw just one lorry head for Chiswick Bridge - a Sainsbury's vehicle - which then was turned around at the bridge barriers and headed back to the Hogarth. While most of the cars simply turned right into a rather peaceful Hartington Road. But guessing not so peaceful once they hit the bottleneck of Thames Road.What was clear was some intensive and detailed work going on across Chiswick Bridge itself - not just road resurfacing but what looked like deep new drains / gullies under the road and pavement. Plus a separate crew working on boats and a hoist floating under the central arch of the bridge, which is also closed this weekend.Leaving aside other arguments, I do wonder why works were sanctioned this weekend closing both the District Line between Chiswick and Richmond and the Overground from South Acton and Gunnersbury? A number of the buses trapped in the Chiswick High Road gridlock were rail replacement services. I know the TfL weekend upgrades are important but it does seem daft to schedule this particular closure at a time when Chiswick Bridge is also closed.

Ian Wylie ● 2895d